U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres arrived at the BRICS summit in the Russian city of Kazan on Oct. 22, despite criticism from Ukraine, Voice of America reported.

The BRICS group, a bloc of countries that includes Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, Iran, Egypt, Ethiopia, and the United Arab Emirates, is convening in Kazan for a three-day summit from Oct. 22-24. According to Moscow, 36 world leaders are participating in the conference.

Guterres is expected to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin on the sidelines of the event on Oct. 24, according to Russian presidential aide Yuri Ushakov.

Ukraine’s Foreign Ministry criticized the U.N. secretary general’s visit.

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  • InfiniteGlitch@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 hours ago

    The conflicts are not even remotely the same, and you’re doing Putin’s work by spreading the nonsense trying to conflate the 2.

    Innocent people are being murdered. That’s what matters. So it is not nonsense but if that’s what you want to believe, that’s fine. Russia wanting to take over Ukraine land, Israel wanting to take over Palestinian land. The difference is that Israel is doing genocide with much more brutality.

    Edit: besides that, the UN secretary should be there. BRICS might turn into a major power block, it’s his job to stay informed.

    Considering everything that’s happening and the UN can’t do much about it…?

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      Well innocents die in every war. In the Russia Ukraine war it is clear who is the bad guy. In the middle east it’s not as cut and dry unfortunately. What Israel is doing exceeds any proportionality, but it’s not as if there is no 2 warring sides of bad guys there that have civilians caught in the middle.

      The UN is not a “do anything about it” it is a diplomatic forum.

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        Well innocents die in every war.

        Does not take away that it is immensely horrifying for every innocent person. For all three (even four); All innocent Palestinians, Israeli’s, Ukrainians and Russians who do not want to go to war. Most just want to live their lives peacefully.

        In the Russia Ukraine war it is clear who is the bad guy.

        And so it is with the Israel-Palestine war. No offense but have you read the history? 1948-2024. Hamas only exists because of Israel’s action from 1948 to 1987. It is clear who started it and it is clear who are the bad guys. In this case, Israel started it, Israel are the main bad guys and then Hamas. There’s a whole argument regard Hamas being The Resistance but that’s for another time.

        The UN is not a “do anything about it” it is a diplomatic forum.

        My point is, the UN is quite much a joke at this point. They cannot do anything while Israel has violated every international law. Diplomatic or not, they haven’t done much and I do not expect much from the UN anymore.

        EDIT: Had to do some edits because formatting went bad.

        • RubberDuck@lemmy.world
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          The UN is not to do anything. The UN exists solely as a forum where countries always have a place for dialogue, no matter how high the temperature. It also gives a voice to all countries in conversations. It is an attempt to avoid nuclear war, not a world government. It has no power other than a voice through which countries can speak who agree with one another. If countries want to band together and do something they can, but the UN cannot. It can only give credence to actions taken by Member countries if enough other countries support it…

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        Saying there is two warring sides and its not as clear cut is kind of ignoring the whole “illegal occupation, annexation and ethnic cleansing.”

        Imagine Russia hadnt invaded again after annexing Crimea and in 2030 Ukraine started to fight to get it back. Would that make it “not cut and dry” because the rest of the world ignored and normalized around the annexation? Ukraine has a right to kick out Russian occupation from every last squaremeter of occupied territory… Palestinians have a right to kick out Israeli occupation from every last squaremeter of occupied territory.

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          Yeah, we disagree on the whole illegal occupation part when it comes to Israel proper. And this in turn leads to disagreement about a lot of the other aspects.

          Everything in life has to do with priorities and where you put them and when it comes to the founding of Israel we disagree.