People keep saying this and I personally don’t really believe it, I think there could be a couple riots, but not like a full on civil war. What does everyone think?

  • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    18 days ago

    No. Like you say, riots, and of course the ongoing epidemic of stochastic terrorism, possibly with more violence directed against politicians and the government, but it’s definitely not going to look like tanks shooting at tanks, and it’s also not going to look like people crawling through tunnels a la Vietnam. What American simultaneously cares enough about politics to risk their life over it, while also being willing to go live in a trench without their phone for a month? No, as long as it’s an option to live a normal life where you can return to your couch and watch or read the news while feeling righteously indignant and engage with social media however you like, that’s what people will do. Look at the January 6’ers, for example, who fully expected to return home and be able to post all about the exciting event all over social media.

    Now, that all goes out the window if some lunatic decides to start WWIII with China and institutes a draft (assuming we don’t all just die in nuclear hellfire). You tell people they’ll have to give up their phones and go live in a trench anyway and maybe some decide they’d rather fight the people making them do that. Americans generally love war, but a lot of that comes from being completely and totally separated from any real life consequences from it. And of course, no insurgency would stand any chance of defeating the US government without foreign support.

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      17 days ago

      So that’s your plan when Trump gums up the election in the courts and through legislative mumbo-jumbo and electoral tampering seizes power even though he lost?

      As he’s getting sworn in by Republicans as our illegal president and begins mobilizing the National Guard to “round up” foreigners, you’ll be going back to your life?

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        17 days ago

        What my individual plan is is irrelevant, I’m just describing what will happen. Do you forsee a future where Kamala Harris makes a call to arms for people to rise up and fight against the National Guard and the military? If so, you need a reality check.

        And for the record, we already have camps that foreigners are rounded up into.

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        17 days ago

        It’s interesting that you think the national guard would support him. I don’t think it’s as simple as that. We can be sure that most lifers in the military have considered what they would do if the unelected commander-in-chief gave an obviously unconstitutional order. It’s not just a hypothetical to them.

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        17 days ago

        Won’t result in a civil war. American libs are only capable of organizing for imperialism and complaining on the internet. They will piss and moan, but inevitably stop short of doing anything meaningful.

        See: Bush v. Gore