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While Ms. Stein condemns both “zombie political parties” as tools of Wall Street and war profiteers, her campaign has focused largely on hammering Ms. Harris, blaming the White House she serves for relentless violence in Gaza and Lebanon.

And Democrats, as never before, are focused on Ms. Stein.

The party has prepared a negative ad blitz for the election’s final weeks, its first-such effort ever directed at a third-party candidate. Fearful that Ms. Stein might divert critical votes in places like Michigan, Democrats are also pressing their case on billboards plastered recently across swing states:

“Jill Stein Helped Trump Once. Don’t Let Her Do It Again.”

She dismisses the “spoiler mythology” that has come to define her mainstream identity, noting — accurately enough — that some of her supporters would never back Ms. Harris anyway.

She says that Democrats would do well to look inward, disputing that she bears any responsibility for Mr. Trump’s fortunes, then or now.

“Those conversations never go anywhere,” Ms. Stein, 74, said in a wide-ranging interview.

  • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
    2·
    2 months ago

    Lmao what are you doing right now? Puffing your chest out over a third party candidate not being viable?

    The subject is your use of Alex Jones Rachel Maddow unhinged conspiracy theories to fill in the gaps between your horrible nazi ideology and your positive self image.

    • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
      12·
      2 months ago

      😂

      So, let’s hear your take on “What even is her endgame”?

      Now is your opportunity to share your opinion, like I’ve shared mine, and we can discuss it instead of baselessly calling each other nazis. It’s tempting to just dismiss you as a propgandist the way you’ve dismissed me as a nazi (seriously???), but this is just toxic to discussion.

      Its not puffing my chest lol just reality.

      And what are YOU doing right now? Wanting to sway votes from a viable candidate to give them to a non-viable one for what reason, exactly? Hmm, gee, I wonder. Settle my wondering mind, and let me know your take!! I’ll wait.

      • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
        2·
        2 months ago

        Lol how funny they’re calling me a nazi because I support genocide abroad and ethnic cleansing at home. I’m just going to laugh and post emojis of laughing because when it comes down to being challenged I stop pretending to be a liberal and act like a straight up nazi just like on reddit in 2016.

        • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
          12·
          2 months ago

          It must be exhausting to have to dodge basic questions about your position and come up with ways to attempt to deflect lol. Why can’t you just say why you are supporting and believe in Jill Stein? You seem so passionate about it, surely you’ve thought it through and can put your ideas into writing. What makes that so hard? Wouldn’t it be easier to win people over to your cause by explaining your position instead of calling the people you want to persuade nazis? I have to assume you support Stein, because you still haven’t weighed in; correct me if I’m wrong!!

          • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
            2·
            2 months ago

            I’m not obligated to answer questions about a position that isn’t mine own just because you’re too stupid to read properly.

            Quite a bit of projection.

            instead of calling the people you want to persuade nazis?

            A narcissist in addition to an idiot.

            • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
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              2 months ago

              I’ll let you in on something that I’m guessing you haven’t realized yet, human-being to human-being.

              We’ve been through 9 years of this already. NINE YEARS. That is a long time, and people really aren’t goldfish or stupid, like you might think. By now, the alt-right playbook is tired, old, worn out, and desperately needs some new material. People have caught on to it and can spot your bad-faith arguments from the moment you jump into the discussion to try to rile people up against Harris/for Trump. It just doesn’t work anymore.

              Maybe I’m wrong and it does still work, and you can come back and reply “Ha ha I told you so!” if Trump wins in a couple weeks.

    • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
      12·
      2 months ago

      P.S. if you don’t like Nazis, boy wait until you hear about this guy named Donald Trump and some of the things he has said. Something about immigrants poisoning the blood of our country… Hmm, sounds like someone both of us would want to prevent from getting into office, right?

      Seriously, I’m going to need hear a good reason why I should throw my vote directly into the trash on a candidate that is going to receive less than 1% of the vote, instead of voting against a real fascist who publicly has taken the mask off.

      • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
        4·
        2 months ago

        “If you don’t like nazis, consider joining our nazi party! We wear a mask to pretend we aren’t nazis!”

        “Instead of using nazi rhetoric about immigrants while we murder them, we just murder them!”

        • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
          12·
          2 months ago

          You are claiming that Kamala Harris and democrats are murdering immigrants? But I thought Kamala Harris loves immigrants because she can get them to illegally vote for her??? Surely you didn’t just make it up as you typed it…

          Good try! Still waiting to hear your answer to the question “What even is her endgame?”

          • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
            2·
            2 months ago

            You are claiming that Kamala Harris and democrats are murdering immigrants?

            At a higher rate than the president before, just like it was with Obama. That’s what you get when you elect a segregationist.

            Still waiting to hear your answer to the question “What even is her endgame?”

            Baby brain having a tantrum because I won’t just take whatever side of whatever argument they assign me

            • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
              12·
              2 months ago

              That’s what you get when you elect a segregationist.

              My friend, both Obama and Harris are black… what a REACH! So if Obama and Harris are “segregationists”, how would you describe Trump?

              I won’t just take whatever side of whatever argument they assign me

              Well, I’m all ears to hear what side of the argument you are on and how you see things! Don’t let me assign a side to you, speak for yourself and tell us your position!