• FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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    15 hours ago

    Can’t smoke on the balcony,

    Because that smoke goes into other people’s apartments. People who may not also be smokers or may have asthma or other medical conditions in which 2nd hand smoke is bad. not actually a building choice… most states now bar smoking inside or near a multi-unit residential building.

    can’t dry clothes on it,

    19 states have some form of “right to dry” legislation, most of which would protect drying on patio space.

    can’t cook on it,

    usually a matter of firecode. where I am, it’s illegal to have wood burning fire pits or charcoal grills, but gas grills are fine. Also, turkey friers.

    These rules are because people are stupid and have caused apartment fires numerous times with these things. can you use charcoal safely? sure. Also, another reason smoking is generally illegal. there’s always that one smoker that forgets to clear out the ashtray every so often and that catches fire. (or they put a tissue in it or something, and that’s not at all fire retardant.)

    can’t display any thing like a flag or banner on the balcony because of some made up aesthetic code, etc.

    not actually legal. if there’s a residential building code that bans political speech (banners, flags, etc) then that’s a first amendment violation. The apartment can (maybe) ban things in their contract agreement, but that’s not a building code. that’s a contract agreement, and as long as it’s not exactly graphic, it probably falls into the “unenforceable” category.

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      that’s a first amendment violation

      It is a first amendment violation when THE STATE and ONLY THE STATE restricts your expression. You can absolutely have your expression restricted by private agreements that you willingly enter into.

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        When it’s a private agreement, that’s not BUILDING CODE.

        Read my comment again.

        Building codes are regulations imposed by city, state, or federal governments. Not by HOAs or landlords. If there is a building code that restricts political speech, it’s a first amendment violation.

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      19 states have some form of “right to dry” legislation, most of which would protect drying on patio space.

      Two points which I would like to interject here:

      1. OP (of either the post or comment above) may not be in the United States, and

      2. Even if they are, there are 50 states and 1 capital district. That means those 19 states only make up roughly a third of the United States. Odds are they are not in one of them.

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        11 hours ago

        Fair enough.

        though, my understanding is that the opposition to clotheslines is a mostly US thing. Especially in places where the weather is warm year-round. (specifically its the HOA’s because HOA’s are the devil.)

        edit: also, there’s no state here that forbids the practice. (there may be cities that do, but I imagine those are in places like… florida. Government small enough to fit in your backyard.)

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          My house is in an HOA. I’m not allowed to have a clothesline.

          I do anyway. It’s on my screened in porch, and not visible unless you’re climbing trees in my backyard. And if you are, fuck you, I’ll walk around naked all day if I goddamn well please.

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          11 hours ago

          though, my understanding is that the opposition to clotheslines is a mostly US thing. Especially in places where the weather is warm year-round.

          That’s fair. I’m not personally knowledgeable about said rules; I just thought I’d point out those couple things.

          (specifically its the HOA’s because HOA’s are the devil.)

          Agreed. I would say they need to go fuck themselves with a cactus, but really now. What did the cactus ever do to deserve that?

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      10 hours ago

      interesting that charcoal is banned but gas is fine. I’ve never had the grease accumulated on the bottom of the grill catch fire on a charcoal grill, but with a gas grill…

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        10 hours ago

        gas can be turned off, charcoal can’t.

        it’s caused way more fires than uncleaned gas grills. mostly because people go inside to eat and forget about the coals (an then the wind comes up or something happens and sparks fly).