• pyrflie@lemm.ee
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    The moment you understand that MAGA is the party of hate is the moment you understand this election. It explains both Islamic and Latino support for Republicans. They were betrayed by Democrats, and are willing to let the rest of us hang for it. I hope selling out for the center Republicans was worth destroying the demographic coalition.

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      My wife is Indonesian Muslim, hates Kamala for what we’re doing in Palestine and told me not to vote for her. I’m still voting for Kamala but man that was a hard conversation I never would have expected. Seems like the military owns everything these days

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        My wife is Indonesian Muslim, hates Kamala for what we’re doing in Palestine and told me not to vote for her. I’m still voting for Kamala

        Have you considered having solidarity with your wife? Did you convince her to vote Kamala, or is this still a wedge issue? Or are you not even telling her?

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          Your copy/pasted comment is telling people to defeat MAGA with socialism. But first let’s get it to hard mode by having MAGAs take over and do Project 2025, right?

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            A Socialist revolution is “hard mode” whether the Democrats or Republicans are in charge, I don’t know where you’re getting the idea that the establishment parties would be any friendlier or more hostile to a literal revolution.

            I also don’t know why you’re saying I am suggesting voting for Trump either, not once have I encouraged it.

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              Only one of two people will win. You’re asking this person if they considered voting against the less awful choice.

              I’m sure we’re both pissed off about how protesters are treated right now. Only one of two parties is saying we need National Guard, deport the protesters, that presidents can execute whomever as an Official Act, that the military should be used against the opposition over speech.

              Yeah, so go with your “nach Trump kommen Wir” plan, it will be equally hard to achieve socialism either way, NBD. Not sure why it isn’t, “equally hard either way so let’s pick the ones at least pretending women and LGBT people should have human rights,” but you do you.

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        The hard part is, she gets to pick between genocide, and genocide with fewer rights for women.

        I don’t understand why she’d pick the latter, but anger does crazy things.

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          In defense Kamala is actively in power with Biden and has had many chances to voice and make change on this issue and she hasn’t. We know what we will get with Kamala, and it’s a lot like Biden all over again

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          It’s “I’m fucked” vs “I’m fucked and those that fucked me die too”.

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        Oof, that must be a weird conversation. Am Indonesian.

        Any conversation touching Islam adjacent lost any nuance with the general population more often than not . Not saying your wife is one, but let’s be honest the education quality here is abysmal and at the same time we’re number 1 muslim by population. Also our “Netizen” is notorious for wrongly attacking any issue they misunderstood.

        One of our top singer got berated nationwide because she wore a skirt with a random arabic text in it, people thought it was a Holy script and she’s Christian.

        I kid you not one election season I saw an angry mob with a banner that said USA = COMMUNIST !!

        Most have hard enough time just to get by day to day so I get it, they take anything to blame. With corruption top to bottom it’s a sad state all around. I’m grateful it’s still a relatively peaceful affair though, at least here in Java.

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        Lmao you are a scum. You’d rather trust the party of genocide than your own wife. How trashy is this.

        Leave the poor woman seriously.

        No offense.

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          They’re both the party of genocide. No matter what, your next president does genocide. Your vote helps decide which you get to protest under.

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            The rest of the world is looking at the US with contempt right now. Far-right germany, britains and the aussies are the only allies you have left. Fuck you.

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            But you won’t. Nobody’s accountable. Nobody was accountable for iraq. Nobody was accountable for lybia. Your country lies and lies and you’re too cowardy to face the criminals unless they are poor ghettos black people. They can create war out of lies and destroy countless lives, not only are they free but they get media attention to endorse whichever warcrimers gonna suck dicks next.

            You make me sick.

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            Not a yank. Don’t care. Too late anyway the damage is done I hope you guys pays for the support for genocide.

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        It’s gonna get harder. Especially if you guys have kids.

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      It’s the dixiecrats after we took the one thing they loved: Jim Crow and their ability to be superior to anyone who isn’t white.

      We even dared to elect a black person president over them, they will NEVER forgive us for that, it went against everything they believe in.

      You don’t understand, to them this is justice for our unimaginable crimes against them, we took the only thing they had in life.

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        Yes that explains the South and the Aryan Nations in the NW. They were a given in this scenario. I have plenty of experience and a little too much understanding of both.

        Party of Hate. For them it’s racial, religious, and cultural.