• olmec@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago
    1. Texas
    2. Ohio State
    3. Oregon
    4. Penn State
    5. Miami
    6. Georgia
    7. Iowa State
    8. BYU
    9. Alabama
    10. Boise State
    11. Clemson
    12. Ole Miss
    13. Tennessee
    14. Missouri
    15. Utah
    16. Texas A&M
    17. LSU
    18. Oklahoma
    19. Notre Dame
    20. Indiana
    21. Kansas State
    22. Pitt
    23. Army
    24. Navy
    25. Liberty

    A quick overview of my methodology. I’m sure you can find contradictions, but I do try to stick to this.

    At this point in the season, I try to make the ranking 25% how good I think the team actually is, and 75% what the resume says. As we go on, the resume gets more bias.

    A few principles that I try to apply.

    1. If you are 5-0 or better, I’ll put you in. It is hard enough to get there, that even with an easier schedule, it should get you ranked. I do this for 2 reasons. First, I want to reward winning. Second, if greater 6 teams never get ranked despite what they do on the field, why bother to say they are apart of the league? Even if all these greater 6 drop a game, I’ll still try to put one or two of them up there, if I can justify it.
    2. I try to use a blind resume, where you consider the resume’s content regardless of the name. The biggest effect that this has is that I effectively ignore head to head. You can look at my poll, and complain that I ranked Georgia above Alabama, and cry afoul that Alabama beat Georgia, and should be ahead. I don’t care, because Georgia has a better resume than Alabama. You can make the same complaint against my Texas A&M/Notre Dame ranking. It doesn’t change my results.
    3. I value bad losses more than I do good wins. Again, going with Alabama and Georgia, I put more weight on the fact that Alabama lost to Vanderbilt, then I do that Alabama beat Georgia. I value reliability. If you can’t show up for the “easy wins”, then I will punish you much more than I will reward you for showing up for the big games.
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      I like your reasoning and appreciate the explanation, so please don’t interpret this comment as me taking issue with your ballot. I am curious about Missouri at 14 and LSU at 17 though. What on their resumes pushes them up that high, especially considering the bad losses factor? By your logic, it seems like some of the undefeated teams should be ahead of them (especially Indiana given that they have a common opponent with LSU and beat them much more decisively). SMU’s absence feels conspicuous also when you have BYU as high as 8.

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        No, please poke holes in my poll. I spend time on it, but this is the first real year I have actually put pen to paper.

        For LSU and Missouri, the cop out answer is that is the 25% of the ballot I give to supposed team quality. Realistically, it shouldn’t have that big of an effect though. Those are 2 teams that, after looking at their schedule just now, I was surprised how weak all their opponents were . I feel a bit bad, because using my metrics, they should be lower. Maybe 3-5 spots each, some where in that range. The good news is, at least LSU will have a chance to make a point this weekend against Ole Miss. That game will make a much bigger difference than me re-evaluating.

        Indiana I still feel fine on. Their schedule hasn’t been impressive. I think the Nebraska game in 2 weeks is the first real challenge they will face. If they perform well, they will see a jump.

        SMU was on the short list to get ranked, but with my rule of ranking 5-0 teams, they got cut. Kansas state is the lowest ranked one loss team in my ranking, and I would take them over SMU.

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    Alright, you guys win, I’ll take the time to actually put something together. Ended up playing it pretty safe:

    Top 25
    1. Ohio State
    2. Texas
    3. Oregon
    4. Penn State
    5. Miami (FL)
    6. Alabama
    7. Georgia
    8. Tennessee
    9. Ole Miss
    10. Iowa State
    11. Clemson
    12. LSU
    13. BYU
    14. Oklahoma
    15. Texas A&M
    16. Boise State
    17. Kansas State
    18. Missouri
    19. Notre Dame
    20. Utah
    21. Indiana
    22. Pittsburgh
    23. Illinois
    24. SMU
    25. Texas Tech

    I tried throwing together a computer poll, but it’s pretty rudimentary and over-favors teams that have played more games (and won those extra grames):

    Bad Computer Top 25
    1. Indiana
    2. Miami (FL)
    3. Ohio State
    4. Texas
    5. Oregon
    6. Penn State
    7. Pittsburgh
    8. BYU
    9. Iowa State
    10. Texas A&M
    11. Navy
    12. Texas Tech
    13. Ole Miss
    14. Army
    15. Nebraska
    16. SMU
    17. Duke
    18. Syracuse
    19. LSU
    20. Virginia
    21. Colorado
    22. Clemson
    23. Arizona State
    24. Alabama
    25. Missouri
    26. Illinois
    27. Washington
    28. North Texas
    29. Rutgers
    30. Georgia
    31. Utah
    32. Kansas State
    33. Memphis
    34. Tennessee
    35. Oklahoma
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    2 months ago

    Texas takes back the #1 spot after the Vandyset. Vandy back in the rankings. Rutgers takes #24

    ballot
     1. Texas
     2. Penn State
     3. BYU
     4. Oregon
     5. Miami
     6. Ohio State
     7. Iowa State
     8. Alabama
     9. Pittsburgh
    10. Indiana
    11. Georgia
    12. Tennessee
    13. Texas Tech
    14. Clemson
    15. Illinois
    16. SMU
    17. LSU
    18. Notre Dame
    19. Vanderbilt
    20. Texas A&M
    21. Oklahoma
    22. Missouri
    23. Nebraska
    24. Rutgers
    25. Washington
    26. Ole Miss
    
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    Taking all bets on how high Vandy gets ranked.

    1:1000 1st

    1:100 2 to 9th

    1:50 10 to 15th

    1:25 16 to 20th

    1:5 21st to 25th

    1:2 Not ranked but receives Votes.

    Note: the bank and casino of Milkisklim will only pay out only in Beamer Bucks which is valued at nothing because that’s how much preparation SC did for this week.

    my rankings

    Texas

    Ohio State

    ole Miss

    Georgia

    Oregon

    Penn State

    Miami FL

    potato institute of Pickens county

    Iowa State

    LSU

    Texas am

    vandy

    Alabama

    Mizzou

    Southern Cal

    Boise State

    Arkansas

    Tennessee

    Michigan

    Washington

    navy

    army

    SMU

    California

    Louisville

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    My poll this week, I will take questions on everything except Tennessee’s ranking:

    1. Texas
    2. Ohio State
    3. Oregon
    4. Penn State
    5. Georgia
    6. Kentucky
    7. LSU
    8. Tennessee
    9. Miami (FL)
    10. Clemson
    11. Ole Miss
    12. Notre Dame
    13. Iowa State
    14. alabama
    15. Michigan
    16. Oklahoma
    17. Nebraska
    18. UNLV
    19. Army
    20. Indiana
    21. Boise State
    22. BYU
    23. Navy
    24. Illinois
    25. SMU
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          Made one just for you and submitted it.

          1 tOSU 5-0
          2 Texas 5-0
          3 Penn 5-0
          4 Oregon 5-0
          5 Georgia 4-1
          6 Miami 6-0
          7 Bama 4-1
          8 Iowa St. 5-0
          9 UT 4-1
          10 Ole Miss 5-1
          11 BYU 5-0
          12 Indiana 6-0
          13 AtM 5-1
          14 Notre Dame 4-1
          15 Clemson 4-1
          16 Boise St 4-1
          17 Louisiana St. 4-1
          18 Utah 4-1
          19 Pitt 5-0
          20 OU 4-1
          21 Arkansas 4-2
          22 Vanderbilt 4-2
          23 Illinois 4-1
          24 Kansas St. 4-1
          25 Mizzou 4-1

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    My ballot (computer poll). It no longer thinks of Texas as a league of their own, as an Ohio State University is closing the gap due to Texas being on bye last week (thank goodness for that). Everyone’s darling Vanderbilt doesn’t crack the top 25 but it does have the biggest movement, rising 42 places.

    Also, when I was ranking Sam Houston (never thought I’d say that) it made me think of other newcomers to FBS. Looks like Kennesaw State is not listed in the dropdowns for this poll.

    Full ranking:
    Rank Change Team Record Points
    1 - Texas 5-0 387
    2 +2 Ohio State 5-0 372
    3 +2 Ole Miss 5-1 368
    4 -1 Alabama 4-1 356
    5 +2 Indiana 6-0 352
    6 - Miami (FL) 6-0 342
    7 +27 Texas A&M 5-1 326
    8 +3 Penn State 5-0 323
    T9 -7 Notre Dame 4-1 321
    T9 +7 Virginia Tech 3-3 321
    11 +4 SMU 5-1 314
    12 +2 Nebraska 5-1 309
    T13 -1 Tennessee 4-1 305
    T13 +8 Clemson 4-1 305
    15 -2 USC 3-2 303
    16 +18 Arkansas 4-2 302
    17 +14 Washington 4-2 299
    18 +4 Georgia Tech 4-2 292
    19 +25 Tulane 4-2 291
    20 -4 Michigan 4-2 288
    21 -3 Boston College 4-2 286
    T22 +18 Iowa State 5-0 282
    T22 +7 Sam Houston 5-1 282
    24 +16 Georgia 4-1 278
    25 -17 Kentucky 3-2 277
    26 +21 Minnesota 3-3 276
    27 -18 BYU 5-0 275
    28 +10 Texas Tech 5-1 272
    29 -19 Oklahoma 4-1 270
    30 -1 Duke 5-1 267
    T31 +24 Army 5-0 264
    T31 +9 Arizona State 4-1 264
    33 -1 UNLV 4-1 262
    34 +18 Oregon 5-0 261
    T35 -3 JMU 4-1 257
    T35 +5 Connecticut 4-2 257
    T35 -12 South Carolina 3-2 257
    38 +42 Vanderbilt 3-2 255
    39 -3 TCU 3-3 251
    40 +17 Pittsburgh 5-0 248
    41 +23 Navy 5-0 243
    42 +26 Houston 2-4 240
    T43 -24 Cincinnati 3-2 237
    T43 -5 Oklahoma State 3-3 237
    T45 -26 LSU 4-1 236
    T45 - Baylor 2-4 236
    T47 +26 Boise State 4-1 234
    T47 +3 North Carolina 3-3 234
    T47 +10 Kansas 1-5 234
    50 -2 Auburn 2-4 233
    T51 -28 Utah 4-1 231
    T51 -28 Colorado 4-1 231
    T53 +4 Rutgers 4-1 230
    T53 -30 Maryland 3-2 230
    T53 +2 Louisville 3-2 230
    T53 +8 Northern Illinois 3-2 230
    57 -30 Kansas State 4-1 229
    58 -30 Illinois 4-1 228
    59 +7 Toledo 4-1 225
    T60 +1 Arizona 3-2 224
    T60 -8 Florida State 1-5 224
    62 +15 Texas State 3-2 221
    T63 +14 Syracuse 4-1 220
    T63 +9 California 3-2 220
    65 +31 West Virginia 3-2 219
    66 +17 Virginia 4-1 215
    67 +31 Jacksonville State 2-3 214
    68 -16 Missouri 4-1 213
    T69 -33 Memphis 4-1 212
    T69 -5 Michigan State 3-3 212
    T71 +8 Louisiana 4-1 211
    T71 +2 South Alabama 2-4 211
    73 +41 Wisconsin 3-2 209
    74 -14 Iowa 3-2 208
    75 -6 Northwestern 2-3 207
    76 +18 Florida 3-2 205
    77 -32 Washington State 4-1 203
    78 -3 Nevada 2-4 202
    T79 +4 San Jose State 4-1 198
    T79 +8 Coastal Carolina 4-1 198
    81 +4 UCF 3-2 197
    T82 -33 Eastern Michigan 4-1 195
    T82 +7 Oregon State 4-1 195
    T82 -16 ECU 3-3 195
    85 -34 UNT 4-1 193
    86 +1 Old Dominion 1-4 189
    87 +11 Bowling Green 2-3 188
    T88 +9 NC State 3-3 186
    T88 +21 Charlotte 3-3 186
    90 - Miami (OH) 1-4 184
    91 -30 Fresno State 3-2 180
    T92 -22 Western Kentucky 3-2 173
    T92 -22 FIU 2-3 173
    94 +20 Wake Forest 2-3 171
    95 -3 Troy 1-5 168
    96 +17 Marshall 3-2 166
    T97 -22 Ohio 3-2 163
    T97 +8 UCLA 1-4 163
    99 +2 Stanford 2-3 162
    T100 +10 UL Monroe 4-1 161
    T100 +6 Temple 1-5 161
    102 -21 Liberty 4-0 156
    T103 -22 Georgia Southern 3-2 155
    T103 +4 Massachusetts 1-5 155
    T105 -18 Buffalo 3-2 152
    T105 -19 FAU 2-3 152
    107 +10 San Diego State 2-3 151
    108 -15 Mississippi State 1-4 144
    T109 -14 Central Michigan 3-2 143
    T109 +10 Arkansas State 3-2 143
    111 +9 Hawaii 2-3 141
    112 -12 New Mexico 1-4 139
    113 +10 Western Michigan 2-3 137
    114 -10 Tulsa 2-4 134
    115 -13 USF 2-3 133
    T116 +7 Colorado State 2-3 129
    T116 -13 Rice 1-4 129
    118 -11 Louisiana Tech 1-3 124
    T119 -8 Wyoming 1-4 117
    T119 +3 Air Force 1-4 117
    121 -9 Georgia State 2-2 115
    T122 -8 UTSA 2-3 113
    T122 +3 UTEP 0-5 113
    124 +7 Akron 1-5 110
    T125 +4 Appalachian State 2-3 105
    T125 -7 New Mexico State 1-4 105
    T127 -7 UAB 1-4 100
    T127 +5 Southern Mississippi 1-4 100
    129 -1 Utah State 1-4 97
    130 +4 Ball State 1-4 94
    131 -5 Kennesaw State 0-5 92
    132 -3 Purdue 1-4 85
    133 -6 Middle Tennessee 1-4 81
    134 -1 Kent State 0-5 61