• whereisk@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    You cannot arrive at a true communist state through violent revolution.

    It’s possible that what you say is true but Marx himself in poverty of philosophy thought you couldn’t arrive without it.

    I guess my overall point is that Marx was a man of his time with similar failings and sensibilities of men of his time - amongst other things he was homophobic, he was considering people in groups wholesale in a way that’s rather distasteful, and in a way that allowed later supposed followers to use these writings to fuck over whole populations.

    I’m not sure why people are rising up to whitewash these things - they don’t negate the other insights anymore than Newton’s insane occult obsession negates calculus or the theory of gravity.

    • HasturInYellow@lemmy.world
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      6 days ago

      I’m not trying to defend his character, nor every detail of his writings. You do not need to be absolutely beholden to a century old dead guy. Good place to start though. He did believe in revolution and I get it. I understand why and it doesn’t seem wrong except we have the benefit of hindsight. Didn’t work out so well the several times it was tried.

      I was mostly arguing that he didn’t want a dictator, it’s just that, unfortunately, it seems his methods lead to that.