The gov typically need some sort of warrant, and they need approval from the country they’re requesting it from.
United States of America? Canada? North Korea? China? Australia? Saudi Arabia? South Africa? Brazil?
The point is the app was designed for secure communication, specifically from corrupt governments, which is why it is problematic to allow access to user data as long as the individual is breaking a law in that country.
Or to use the example from the top:
So who gets to pick what’s a lawful request and criminal activity? It’s criminal in some states to seek an abortion or help with an abortion, so would they hand out the IPs of those “criminals”? Because depending on who you ask some will tell you they’re basically murderers. And that’s just one example.
Can you elaborate on what you’re asking me to elaborate on, because I honestly don’t know beyond what I’ve already told you.
United States of America? Canada? North Korea? China? Australia? Saudi Arabia? South Africa? Brazil?
Yes. Any of these could potentially be “the country they’re requesting it from”.
The point is the app was designed for secure communication, specifically from corrupt governments
If you think that’s true, you are sorely mistaken. It may be how it is advertised, but it is not how it was designed. If it were designed that way, as many many different chat apps are, they would have no information to give up to a subpoena. AKA the “zero knowledge” encryption that was mentioned previously.
it is problematic to allow access to user data as long as the individual is breaking a law in that country.
I agree. For the third time, this is not my opinion, this is just how the world works.
This may be of some use to you.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/elaborate
United States of America? Canada? North Korea? China? Australia? Saudi Arabia? South Africa? Brazil?
The point is the app was designed for secure communication, specifically from corrupt governments, which is why it is problematic to allow access to user data as long as the individual is breaking a law in that country.
Or to use the example from the top:
Can you elaborate on what you’re asking me to elaborate on, because I honestly don’t know beyond what I’ve already told you.
Yes. Any of these could potentially be “the country they’re requesting it from”.
If you think that’s true, you are sorely mistaken. It may be how it is advertised, but it is not how it was designed. If it were designed that way, as many many different chat apps are, they would have no information to give up to a subpoena. AKA the “zero knowledge” encryption that was mentioned previously.
I agree. For the third time, this is not my opinion, this is just how the world works.
Or to use my answer from the top: