• Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Ring-winger gun-nuts: the 2nd amendment is meant to keep us protected from a tyrannical government!!!

    This is the second attempt on the life of your wannabe god-emperor…are things starting to click into place yet or are you ready to admit it was never about “rights” and “freedoms” you just really like having guns

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      2 months ago

      I mean if they were serious about guns being used to make sure the tyrants and would be tyrants are always in fear of an assassin’s bullet then what has been happening lately is EXACTLY what the 2nd amendment is intended for… and they are pissed because they are a bunch of wanna-be brownshirts who want to be the armed militia of the tyrant and kill his enemies without fear of prosecution. They just want to do it with their own personal weapons.

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      2 months ago

      I sort of wonder how much longer 2A idiocy will last in the US. The NRA has gone bankrupt and since they aren’t able to funnel Russian money to politicians like they used to be able to, their influence is basically zero at this point.

      With them out of the picture, there’s really not a powerful gun lobby getting right wing media to talk about Democrats as gun grabbers.

      If you peruse conservative spaces like I do, you’ll notice that talking point has evaporated.

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        2 months ago

        The 2nd Amendment will likely be in place long after all of us are dead, because it is a right that the majority of Americans support, and because amending the Constitution is required to change it, and because amending the Constitution is very difficult.

        Constitutional amendments require a 2/3 majority vote of both houses of Congress to pass (initially) then must also pass ratification by 3/4 of state legislatures. Only takes 13 red states to vote NO to block it. All of the red states are going to vote against it, every time, because the right to bear arms is an inherent right that we will never give up.

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          2 months ago

          2A absolutism is a recent invention in modern politics started by the NRA. Restrictions on guns and gun ownership have been in the law books since pretty close to the founding.

          There are already restrictions on who can own guns and what guns can be purchased by the public.

          When I say 2A insanity, I’m talking about Republicans blocking all common sense gun legislation. I don’t think that will stay forever. I don’t believe a repeal of 2A needs to happen to make things significantly better. You could, for example, make it illegal to sell/own guns under 30. You could ban magazines. You could limit the caliber of bullets sold. You could make gun manufacturers civilly liable for the advertisements they put out.

          Before even addressing if 2A is a good amendment (it isn’t) we can do all this

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        2 months ago

        The NRA is bankrupt and has no influence? I hadn’t heard about that.

        I do notice now that they are charging school shooters parents as well as the kid, maybe that will get people to start thinking about this differently. Maybe.

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        2 months ago

        Throw in Trump has stated to take people’s guns without due process, and Pence had to talk him out of it to ensure the 2A voters wouldn’t turn against him, now apparently he wants to do outdoor events behind shields of some sort… I can imagine it will be long before MAGA followers agree it is to dangerous to have people buying guns without proper background checks… Which would have likely prevented this person from owning an AK, as he has previous weapons charges.

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      2 months ago

      Men like Donald Trump are the conservative argument in favor of guns. He’s exactly the type of authoritarian the 2nd ammendment was meant to combat.