• blazera@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    You should be asking why democrats are fighting so hard to keep these people out of elections.

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        3 months ago

        I know it improves their odds. But its by virtue of making elections more democratic. You let progressive parties in and then democrats lose, because democrats dont represent progressives. You want to ban progressive candidates, democrats should become more progressive to compete.

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          3 months ago

          Your logic is flawed because we live in a two party system. Third parties in our current setup are only spoilers. We need to address the foundational issues FIRST and then we can get more than even 3 parties in. Otherwise you’re going to get republicans fixing the system so they never leave power and then we’re all fucked forever with no chance of improvement.

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            3 months ago

            We need to address the foundational issues FIRST

            Thats what Im doing, youre vehemently opposing that change

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              3 months ago

              You clearly don’t understand the meaning of first. And this is why progressives and the Green Party never make any headway. You think you’re working in a system that’s fair and will work if you just try hard enough. Except you only end up fighting the people most loosely aligned to yall and you end up letting the country move further and further to the right.

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          3 months ago

          That’s the wrong conclusion. If two Democrats were on the ballot, they would likely still both lose because of first past the post voting. If you really want to support “making elections more democratic” push for ranked choice voting, or proportional representation.

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            3 months ago

            What a surprise, guess who supports ranked choice voting? The green party! Yet another reason democrats fight so hard to keep them from competing

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      3 months ago

      Because the Green Party under Jill Stein exists ONLY to be a spoiler for Democrats.

      She has no actual intentions of getting elected, her only goal is to profit from appearing to do so while getting enough attention to fan her enormous ego.

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        3 months ago

        You make it sound like its her decision whether or not she gets elected

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            3 months ago

            Yeah, thats the decision she gets to make, to run. Not whether or not she gets elected. She hasnt won and somehow that means she has no intention to.

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              3 months ago

              Yea so what are you even saying in your previous comment? I don’t even get why you’re trying to push an obviously gop backed candidate.

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                3 months ago

                Thinking not winning is proof someone doesnt intend to win is ridiculous