I’d like to report mod activity that’s not following sitewide rules on your server and instead bans people because they feel it’s not worth their time. I would like for the mod to be overlooked.

The sitewide rule #1 says I can expect to participate without harassment and feel welcome. If I call a mod to look over a user breaking this rule, I should expect them to intervene, right?

So I don’t understand why @[email protected] is deleting all my comments and banning me instead of the person being aggressive towards me because “both sides of the argument are nonsense” without even bothering with the actual concern. I didn’t call them over to look at anyone’s argument, I specifically stated in my report that the other person was being extremely disrespectful.

So now I’m banned:

Banned Lemminary from the community Curated [email protected] reason: troll expires: in 30 days

Their excuse? I’m a troll, apparently. I invite anyone to check the messages to see if that’s true or if I’m merely sharing my opinion.

I don’t care about the ban–keep it that way. But please let me know if something is being done about these mods who enjoy pushing people around. It’s infuriating that on top of being dog-piled on, berated & insulted in the thread all day (I got links), I also get treated this way by the people who have taken on the role of protecting users. If I hit the report button, I entrust the person in charge to keep a level head and do their job fairly.

Thank you for your time.

  • Lemminary@lemmy.worldOP
    410·
    2 months ago

    Good question! If an admin would be so kind as to restore my comments, you’d see that I’m merely sharing my opinion and people didn’t like what I said or how I said it. There’s nothing more to it but people are trying. It’s not the first time groupthink has nuked a comment on a thread despite what is being said. I got up to 10+ upvotes of people agreeing with me but you don’t see that.

    Here’s an excellent comment that illustrates the two disproportionate camps that formed down in the thread who were downvoting eachother:
    https://sh.itjust.works/comment/13787207 It’s linking to this image mocking people with more strict scientific views who didn’t give into the allegory:
    https://cdn.psychologytoday.com/sites/default/files/styles/article-inline-half-caption/public/field_blog_entry_images/2019-11/scientsimidol.jpg

    But anyway, I’m only clarifying this for people who would come away thinking I was breaking the rules when I was politely defending my stance. And even then I was insulted.

    The main point here is not the thread but the way this mod behaved when called to do their one job.

      • all-knight-party@fedia.io
        111·
        2 months ago

        As self-appointed arbiter of the truth, I don’t think OP was trolling. I think OP responded negatively to a wholesome post, and even though their position is justified, that’s going to receive a backlash of some size.

        At that point the fatal mistake was trying to respond to the backlash, because the people responding to OP were definitely being condescending internet arguers, so…

        In the end, partial responsibility to OP for being negative on a wholesome post, regardless of justification, then partial responsibility to the repliers for being tactless about it, then after that it becomes everyone’s fault as they roll around in the mud together.

        • Lemminary@lemmy.worldOP
          211·
          2 months ago

          In my defense, I wasn’t trying to be negative and I didn’t think I was being at the time. But thank you for trying to keep it impartial.

          • all-knight-party@fedia.io
            4·
            2 months ago

            I can understand that. Just as well, I don’t believe you deserved to be banned, strictly for that exchange of comments. You guys weren’t being nice to each other, for certain, but in the realm of people being mean to each other on the internet that was about a 3 or 4 out of a possible 10 in intensity.

            In the future just ask yourself if something you posted could make someone else upset, particularly someone invested or related to something you’re talking about negatively or are dismissing. I think it should be okay to express that, but understand that it may hurt some feelings, and people may become upset with you. Don’t give it back to them and sink to that level.

            • Lemminary@lemmy.worldOP
              110·
              2 months ago

              3 or 4 out of a possible 10 in intensity

              Which is weird because the person I reported was at about a 7 and I’m the one who got clapped. They even edited their comment after to tone it down but I got the full brunt of of it without consequences.

              ask yourself if something you posted could make someone else upset

              I always do. But in this particular thread, I think the main culprit was a clash of spiritual/fundamental views of the world that seemed to ruffle feathers since I got a fair share of feisty replies right from the start that weren’t necessarily responding to my tone until much later. My demeanor alone doesn’t explain why I was suddenly the Big Bad Wolf in the thread. It’s not the first time I get clowned on for expressing a different pov, but that’s fine.

      • themachine@lemmy.world
        113·
        2 months ago

        Well that certainly removes any uncertainty from this “debate”. OP was rude and peoe didnt takd mind to his rudeness.

        • BlemboTheThird
          22·
          2 months ago

          Not liking something and expressing it isn’t the same as being rude. It can be done rudely, but this is about as benign as disagreement on taste gets. Can’t imagine how a mod could self justify a ban over this.

          • [email protected]@sh.itjust.works
            14·
            2 months ago

            There’s a bit more to this.

            OP reported this comment:

            Right, so you’ve got all this experience and knowledge and all you want to do is complain that people get it wrong, you don’t want to do anything to change that by say educating someone who’s engaging in good faith. Consider my mistake noted, I’m no longer interested in anything you have to say about anything. You’re not old, you’re horrifically rude and unnecessarily aggressive. Good day.

            Reason: Wtf is this rude shit

            To which the community mod replied in a DM to OP that they should both cut it out:

            the argument is pretty nonsensical on both ends and if you drag me into the middle of it I’m banning you both.

            To which OP replied:

            Who cares about the fucking argument? Sine you care so little about personal ttacks, go ahead dipshit.

            … OP gets banned, posts this thread, etc.

        • Lemminary@lemmy.worldOP
          211·
          2 months ago

          How was I rude? lol Quote me on it, give me tangible examples.

          And please explain how that justifies people straight-up insulting me.

      • Lemminary@lemmy.worldOP
        211·
        2 months ago

        This is excellent, thank you! And please, judge away, particularly the nasty replies that I got.

    • Thetimefarm@lemm.ee
      7·
      2 months ago

      It should still show up in your comment history right? Why did they say you were being horrifically rude?

      • Lemminary@lemmy.worldOP
        44·
        2 months ago

        It doesn’t if it’s mod-removed. They used to say “removed by mod” and now don’t even appear in my comments history.

        But please point out where I was horrifically rude: https://fedia.io/m/[email protected]/t/1172754/atoms-don-t-touch/comment/7192350#entry-comment-7192350