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    2 months ago

    Our founding fathers did not like democracy and took steps to keep our republic running by implementing the superior electoral college system.

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      2 months ago

      What is superior about it at all? That it gives disproportional voting power to a few states?

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        2 months ago

        It’s what keeps the union together. Otherwise we would have split a long time ago.

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            Are we still a nation after all these years? Do you not understand what the electoral college does? It makes sure the smaller states still have equal power in the government. Otherwise we’d split off because power would be held by a few states.

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              I’m thinking you shouldn’t talk about the electoral college until you understand what it does because you’re dead wrong

              Power IS held by a few states…the swing states…that are made important because the electoral college gives them disproportionate votes. States aren’t people and where you live shouldn’t matter for the presidential election.

              [https://fairvote.org/archives/the_electoral_college-population_vs_electoral_votes/](A vote in Wyoming has the same “power” as 2 1/2 votes from Oregon). What about that sounds right to you?

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                States are the centers of power in our country. Not the people. It’s why states vote for president.

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                    2 months ago

                    Have you ever taken a basic class on the United States government? States vote for the president. That’s what the electoral college is all about. In many states the electoral college has no obligation to use the popular vote for making their decision.

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        2 months ago

        You mean so the democrats could own their slaves. Funny how things have not changed

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            Lincoln was a conservative himself. He described himself as a conservative and historians Label him as one. In the speech you cited, he was speaking as a conservative to other conservatives.

            Democrats owned slaves. Democrats still want to own slaves.

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              Ending slavery is not a conservative position by definition. Conservatism means continuing the system that is currently in place and accepted.

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                Ending slavery is a conservative value. Since we believe all men are equal, slavery by default insults that position.

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                  Are you sure you’re a conservative? Most conservative views are insulting. But back in real life, it was a deeply ingrained institution at the time.

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                    I am very conservative. The Republican party was started to end slavery. Lincoln was a conservative. Before joining the Republican Party he was conservative Whig. Republicans have always stood up for freedom and individual rights. In the 80’s we picked up the religious right which skewed some stances but I’m not part of the religious right.