• RubberDuck@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Why? Can you elaborate on why this is not an issue and kids should be monitored by a 3rd party?

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      2 months ago

      I already made that clear in my original comment.

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        2 months ago

        No you did not. You just stated that this was the case. I’m asking why that is/should be acceptable.

        Why is it normal to put monitoring software on?
        Why does a 3rd party need to monitor it?
        What are they monitoring that would be considered acceptable?

        I honestly ask, because I can’t think of any reason.

        Or is this similar to “mass shootings are a fact of life”?

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          2 months ago

          No you did not. You just stated that this was the case. I’m asking why that is/should be acceptable.

          These are school issued machines, and like all machines issued by a 3rd party for use under their supervision, they come with monitoring software.

          Clear as day. Glad we cleared this up.

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              2 months ago

              Yes it is an explanation why.

              Your question: Why is/should this be acceptable.

              My answer: These are school issued machines, and like all machines issued by a 3rd party for use under their supervision, they come with monitoring software.

              It is acceptable because it is the schools property and they can do as they wish with it. Everyone else is free to not use those machines.

              This is not a hard thing to grasp.

              But since you are just being combative we are done here.

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                2 months ago

                That is not an explanation on why this is the case. Cowardly slinking away into the shadows is par for the course.

                Just for thought:

                • Is everyone free not to use them? (Does the school offer solutions for byod?)
                • Can people afford to make another choice while at the same time being forced to use laptops?
                • Is the type of monitoring reasonable and proportional?

                I’ll bet a dollar the answer to this all is NO.

                The whole pro company schtick is getting old.

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                  2 months ago

                  Cowardly slinking away into the shadows is par for the course.

                  Offer a real conversation to others instead of being combative and maybe you will have better results with people in the future.

                  The whole pro company schtick is getting old.

                  I never once stated I was “pro company”. Another tip, free of charge, don’t put words in peoples mouths. Makes your already faulty argument moot.

                  Is everyone free not to use them?

                  Yes.

                  Can people afford to make another choice while at the same time being forced to use laptops?

                  No one is forced to use a laptop. Libraries exist with free internet access and computer.

                  Is the type of monitoring reasonable and proportional?

                  Yes. If you do not think it is I can only assume you weren’t a child when the internet became a thing. I was “monitored” on school computers in the 90’s and this is no different.

                  Now are you actually going to participate in good faith or should I simply block you?

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                    2 months ago

                    I asked you WHY… and you still have not answered. But at the same time attacked the tone of the message.

                    And if your viewpoint ignores Personal rights in favor of corporations stomping all over them you are by extension pro corp. It’s your words not mine. But sure.

                    Go ahead and block me… as I can’t imagine any proper answer on WHY this behavior by schools and companies should be acceptable will ever come.

                    Edit: “it happened to me so it must be acceptable”… Is some Stockholm level stuff you should maybe discuss with a professional. It’s the underlying reason abused kids become abusers.