• just_another_person@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Yes. There is proof. The Trump Campaign team themselves released footage of the altercation to DC and Federal Authorities, and then went on social media of all places to preemptively try to argue that person they assaulted was having a “mental health episode”. They were doing their job.

    Yes, there is proof the representative was correct in turning them away. You quoted the fucking law.

    Last point, the families never requested any permission to film, as the ANC representative already told them, they were not allowed to film or photograph there.

    This is a non-discussion. Regardless of whether you, Trump, the families, or anyone else thinks so, there is a fucking codified law in place to prevent this shit, but they thought they could just do whatever they wanted. It was illegal, hands down.

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      3 months ago

      Yes. There is proof. The Trump Campaign team themselves released footage of the altercation to DC and Federal Authorities

      Where can I find the video? I looked for it late last week but couldn’t find it.

      Yes, there is proof the representative was correct in turning them away.

      Where’s the proof of the denial of the request? I haven’t heard anything about that being released.

      Last point, the families never requested any permission to film

      Who stated this? The ANC, the families, or another entity?

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        3 months ago

        I don’t think authorities make a habit of just releasing evidence to the public in that way. Again, you’re not super familiar with this.

        The representative filed a complaint. The Trump campaign said publicly there was an altercation. They then had to turn over video evidence of this to authorities. That’s really the end of that question. It happened.

        The families never requested any permission. The top two points I just made say that alone. The family doesn’t even have a right to request permission to SET ASIDE THE LAWS IN PLACE. Again, they have no say in this. Even if they requested “Hey, Trump wants to come and do this thing”, the response would have to be “Okay, but only in a private capacity, because no political campaigns are allowed to press here”.

        Are you listening to yourself? If he just wanted to go out of the goodness of his heart, then fucking do that. That’s clearly not why he went though, or else there would have been no reason to turn them away. Walking up with a mob of campaign people and photo/video staff is clearly a fucking problem, so they were turned away, and instead of leaving, assaulted a military representative whose job it was to turn them away based on the law.

        Get lost with this noise, for real.

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          I don’t think authorities make a habit of just releasing evidence to the public in that way.

          This I know, I was wondering if the Trump campaign had posted the footage. They’d threatened to do so at one point IIRC.

          if they requested “Hey, Trump wants to come and do this thing”

          Are you arguing that’s this is not what happened?

          Walking up with a mob of campaign people and photo/video staff

          How many people were in this mob?

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            3 months ago
            • No they don’t
            • Trump campaign says 90% of things that have no followup or proof
            • I’m not arguing his campaign did anything, they were THERE. They assaulted someone over this. There is no conflicting account that this did not happen from either side. It happened.
            • A campaign rolls deep. Less than a few, but definitely recognized as a campaign crew that should NOT be there, which is why they were stopped in the first place and decided to assault someone to get their press footage and pictures.