Former Vice President Mike Pence has confirmed that he took notes on his conversations with former President Trump leading up to the Jan. 6 riot, as Trump repeatedly pressured him to reject the results of the 2020 election during the certification in Congress.

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    I find the idea of giving Pence one iota of credit for any of that to be profane in the extreme, but if it turns out to be true… ugh… I suppose I would have to. I also don’t believe his motivations would have been anything other than self-serving.

    still, gross. he’s such a terrible person.

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        at least he respects democracy.

        bigotry and hate are not compatible with democracy, a cornerstone of which is equality

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          It is when one legislates their religious convictions onto others who do not share them.

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            Like which ones? I’m not American and I don’t have to inform myself of all the laws that were passed 2016-2020 in a country that isn’t mine

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              marriage equality, for one. he actively advocates for laws banning it, and advocates for laws banning LGBTQ equality in other ways, advocating for laws limiting/eliminating LGBTQ equality, often donating money for the purpose and to politicians who support such measures.

              but if you can’t make the effort to inform yourself of at least the topic under discussion, then don’t expect others to do it for you before jumping into a conversation. that’s just rude.

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              Then don’t come to a post that deals with American politics asking dumb questions.

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                Dude Lemmy is all about fucking American politics. No, not Just Lemmy, all of the internet and news is filled with that geriatric infighting you call politics

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                  So to summarize, you’re whining about people not informing you about how things work in America- a country you don’t live in, but think somehow you’re entitled to have everyone explain shit that doesn’t even involve you?

                  That’s embarrassing for you.

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                    No, I’m whining about how fucking everything is about America and how it’s literally necessary to inform about your bullshit just to be on the Internet

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          Legislative policy based on a certain religion is violent fascism. And anyone who holds office and uses their religion to enact legislation is anti American POS, incompatible with modern civilization, no better than the worst terrorist. And they should not be tolerated in any manner that allows them to hold political power. And anyone who votes for such a candidate is no better than them.

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          Waaaaaaaaaaa. I want to be able to push my religion and ideals one everyone and not be labeled an asshole. Waaaaaaaaaaaa.

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            “Look, I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, I believe in traditional marriage, and I believe marriage was ordained by God and instituted in the law, but we live in a pluralistic society, and the way we go forward, and the way we come together as a country united, I believe, is when we respect: Your right to believe and my right to believe what we believe,” Pence said.

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      Broken clock is right twice a day man. Being saved by a piece of shit isn’t fun.

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        well… he’s not a broken clock. he’s a self-serving asshole whose self-interest just so happened to coincidentally align with not destroying American democracy at that particular moment. it had nothing to do with anything but himself.

        and THAT is what sucks the most, not to mention that people are praising him for it.

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          “the broken clock just so happened to coincidentally align with the current time” Kinda exactly what the phrase is used for.

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            Stopped clock, if you’re an “eat your cake and have it too” type of person, because a broken clock might be broken in that it runs fast, slow, or be missing teeth on a gear or sometime causing it to skip.

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      Of course the motives were self serving. He likely saw himself going down in history as the man who singlehandedly saved the US and thought it would help him become president.