• sunnieOP
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    edit-2
    4 months ago

    Using better by itself is fine in an informal context, and “had better” is only required for formal contexts. And I don’t think a meme on the internet counts as a formal context.

    And also, 🤓☝️

    • OfCourseNot@fedia.io
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      4 months ago

      That’d be a contraction of ‘would’ in this case, wouldn’t it? As an ESL speaker I used to find these grammar ‘mistakes’ (for lack of a better word) made more difficult for me to parse the sentences. As with code ‘written once but read many times’ would apply here.

      • sparkle@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        12
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        4 months ago

        For a lot of English speakers, the “had” and “have” in contractions is completely omitted in certain contexts. It’s more prevalent in some dialects (I’m in the south US and it’s more common than not). Usually “had” is dropped more than “have”.

        Also, English can drop the pronoun, article, and even copula for certain indicative statements. I think it’s specifically for observations, especially when the context is clear.

        looking at someone’s bracelet “Cool bracelet.” [That’s a]

        wakes upsigh Gotta get up and go to work…” [I’ve]

        “Ain’t no day for picking tomatoes like a Saturday.” [There]

        “No war but class war!” [There’s]

        “Forecast came in on the radio. Says there’s gonna be a hell of a lot of rain today.” [It said -> Says/Said]

        “Can’t count the number of Brits I’ve killed. Guess I’m just allergic to beans on toast.” [I; I]

        “House came tumblin’ down after the sinkhole opened up” [The]

        “I’d” can be “I would”, mainly if used with a conditional or certain conjunctions/contrastive statements (if, but, however, unfortunately). Also when preceding “have” – e.g. “I’d have done that”. Because “I had have” doesn’t make sense, nor does “I had <present tense>” anything. “I’d” as in “I had” is followed by a past participle.

        “I’d” is usually “I had” otherwise, forming the past perfect tense. But in “I’d better”, it’s a bit confusing because “had better” is used in a different sense – the “had” here comes from “have to” (as in “to be necessary to”) and can be treated as both a lexical verb and an auxiliary verb. “had better” is a bit of a leftover of more archaic constructions.

      • candybrie@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        edit-2
        4 months ago

        It would be a contraction of had: “I had better write…” Using would there doesn’t make sense.

        • OfCourseNot@fedia.io
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          4 months ago

          More or less my point, languages are weird with lots of arbitrary idiomatic things—‘would rather’ but ‘had better’.

          After posting the comment I’ve thought ‘wait, it makes more sense for it to be should’ so my guesses are a bit off today.

      • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        4 months ago

        for lack of a better word

        Usages of non-standard grammar.

        This one poses me (ETL) no problem, but my brain always tilts when the natives mix subject/verb contractions (you’re, it’s, they’re) with the possessives (your, its, their).

        • OfCourseNot@fedia.io
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          4 months ago

          Yeah maybe not even non-standard as much as non-formal in this case.

          I wanted to mean ‘different from what you learn in English class in school as a kid’ so non-formal, non -standard, dialectal, slang, misspellings, same-sounding words…

          • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            4 months ago

            That’s all covered by “non-standard” - because the standard of a language dictates what’s to be taken as informal/vulgar/archaic, dialectal, slang, different words or the same word, etc. And while there are exceptions most of the time when people learn a non-native language they learn the standard, in detriment of other varieties.

            (Sorry for nerding out about this, I just love this sort of topic.)