• breckenedge@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Do we know where the sales mostly came from?

    Random speculation: Could be banks needing to pull out of the market due to the Fed signaling September rate cuts due to the higher-than-expected unemployment report. This will cause a drop in yield for savings, which would cause people to reduce what they have in those accounts.

    • jj4211@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      Well, they announced a rate hike in Japan, so that would seem to be a more immediate cause.

      In fact, there’s some analysis that suggests that Japan’s rate hike contributes to the dip in the other markets. Evidently it was a thing for people to borrow yen, use that to get other currencies, and then buy stock and sell the stock to repay the loans. Since the yen has climbed 14% versus the USD in the past few days, those loans suddenly became awfully expensive.

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      5 months ago

      Random speculation: Could be banks needing to pull out of the market due to the Fed

      Japan stocks

      I mean… it could be. But most foreign stock markets aren’t directly tethered to the Fed.

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      5 months ago

      Most of the money banks “have” they created it themselves (it’s called Fractional Reserve Lending and there’s a wonderful paper on it by somebody at the Bank Of England called “Money creation in the Modern Economy”).

      The whole “banks lend out depositors’ money” thing hasn’t been true since the 80s.

      Also nowadays most of the money in leveraged investments comes from the Money Markets (so rich people and pension funds) rather than banks.

      That said, your point still stands since a reduction of deposits might impact banks’ reserves (basically central banks force them to have the equivalent of about 3-5% of their loans as reserves), it would force a wider retrenchment of their loans, but by itself the impact of that on the entire leveraged investment universe should be limited because they’re not the main players in the Money Markets.