• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Like, I think we’re all still trying to figure out this weekend and what it does to the calculus, but…

    By refusing to have a serious conversation about Bidens viability as candidate starting 8 months ago, the astroturfers/ mainstream media, RW democrats seem to have pretty much guaranteed us a Trump presidency.

    By sticking with Biden, both before the debate and after, you’ve doomed us all.

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      5 months ago

      The conversation about Biden should have been held 4 yeas ago. All the signs were there that he was spiraling down but the pundit class kept having the working class silence those of us pointing out how he will be a fuckup

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        5 months ago

        We had that conversation. We were told to shut the fuck up and row; if you do we’ll give you the platform. We shutted the fuck up, and we rowed, and we got the platform and we got him into office. Everything that Joe Biden gets to take credit for is because to get the progressive caucus, he made a deal to clone the progressive platform. And it worked! It was a deal well made. Yes, they ratfucked our guy twice. Oh well. We plugged our noses and did what we had to do.

        Biden also, at that time, said he was running as a 1 term “transition candidate”. It was how he was able to get commitment from people who really did think he was too old (and he was, but whatever, we needed to beat Trump).

        But you couldn’t get MSM or CNN to remind people of that point if your life depended on it. This isn’t the election of 2020 and Biden is basically offering the voters jack fucking shit, because what he offered in 2020 wasn’t his to offer in the first place.

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          5 months ago

          You are claiming biden said he was running only once. Provide the quote.

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            Is your google broken? Here is the quote - "Look, I view myself as a bridge, not as anything else,” Biden said at a rally in Detroit, one of his last pre-lockdown campaign appearances of the 2020 Democratic primaries. It was early March, and he was flanked by Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and a pair of his former rivals, Kamala Harris and Cory Booker—all members of what Biden would call “an entire generation of leaders” and “the future of this country.”

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              5 months ago

              It’s a mealy-mouthed statement, definitely meant to make a person assume whatever they want, but it doesn’t actually say what you claimed it did.