• Maggoty@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    2 months ago

    There is no consensual sex in prison.

    Between guards and inmates. Inmates are on a level playing field and can have consensual sex. Unless of course you’re talking about legal technicalities in which case, the suffering is the point.

    • Neuromancer@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      17
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      No inmates cannot have sex in prison with other inmates. It is prohibited.

        • Neuromancer@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          11
          ·
          2 months ago

          Too much of a power dynamic. It causes to many issues in the facility for the staff and other inmates.

          Typically it’s ignored in most cases but when it’s an issue they move inmates to other facilities.

          • Maggoty@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            6
            ·
            2 months ago

            And they couldn’t move her to another women’s facility? or another unit in the same facility? They had to go straight to men’s genpop? I also don’t buy that sex among peers causes too many issues. Unless it’s criminal, in which case you’d deal with it on that front. Because if that was true we’d have to make sex among peers a crime in normal society too.

            • Neuromancer@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              7
              ·
              2 months ago

              I have no clue why they moved her to a male facility. It’s not in the article. Until more comes out on the case, it’s a mystery.

              I suspect this is a maximum security and I have no clue how many they have for women in Washington.

              In Nevada where my girlfriend worked in the prison system, they only have one for women. They’d move them to another section of the prison if possible or send them out of state.

              Overall though they led it slide as long as there were no issues.

              • CileTheSane
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                4
                ·
                2 months ago

                Overall though they led it slide as long as there were no issues.

                Overall they let rape slide? Or is it not rape now?

              • Maggoty@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                3
                ·
                2 months ago

                So we’re not aware of any issues, just the ridiculous rule, and cruel transfer. Have I got that right?

                • Neuromancer@lemm.ee
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  9
                  ·
                  2 months ago

                  No it does not appear that you have it right. The rule isn’t ridiculous at all and we don’t know why the person was transferred. She assumes that is the reason and it’s a fair assumption. Prison isn’t summer camp. It’s there to keep the communities safe by removing bad elements.

                  • Maggoty@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    3
                    ·
                    2 months ago

                    Okay so casual sex is banned for everyone then right? We all have to get married and have weekly reports to HR to make sure there’s no problems?

      • CileTheSane
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        2 months ago

        It is prohibited.

        Doing drugs is prohibited. Doing drugs isn’t rape.

          • CileTheSane
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            5
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            2 months ago

            I agree, something being prohibited has nothing to do with consent.

            • Neuromancer@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              10
              ·
              2 months ago

              Well go argue with the law, not sure why you are bothering me with what the news reports

              • CileTheSane
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                4
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                2 months ago

                The law doesn’t call it non-consensual or rape either. Just says it’s not allowed.

                • Neuromancer@lemm.ee
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  arrow-down
                  9
                  ·
                  2 months ago

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/trans-identifying-male-in-women-s-prison-found-having-sex-with-female-inmate-report/ar-BB1kq1cJ

                  An anonymous Washington DOC employee told National Review that there is “technically” no consensual sex among incarcerated individuals, but that “Washington has been mitigating the sanctions on offenders involved” if both parties claim the intercourse is consensual, resulting in “less trouble” for the offenders.

                  Rape is non-consenual sex. DOC employee said there is no consensual rape among inmates.

                  • CileTheSane
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    4
                    arrow-down
                    2
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    2 months ago

                    both parties claim the intercourse is consensual, resulting in “less trouble” for the offenders.

                    Also:

                    there is no consensual rape among inmates.

                    Technically true, but you’re just further showing your misunderstanding of language.