Sunday’s successful blockade run could signal to international shippers that it’s reasonably safe to resume operations from Ukrainian ports.

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    The best answer to Russia’s blockade would be a NATO escort. Unfortunately Turkey would need to be on board and Erdogan is trying to play the role of mediator in the conflict.

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      I actually don’t blame him for trying to play mediator, I think that’s a good thing here, because I want putin to think there’s always room to talk even while his army is being incinerated around him.

      But we should send speedboats with the US flag carrying kfc in and out of Odessa with each convoy.

      Ukraine is beating Russia, best case scenario for everyone is this keeps happening slowly enough that putin doesn’t do anything stupid while his empire collapses around him.

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        Guys a tyrannical ass but I’ll give him props for playing and WINNING both sides

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      Do you want nuclear war? Because nato and Russia engaging in direct combat is a path to that. I know some US citizens believe that the US has a nuclear missile intercept program so they won’t be affected, but no such system exists and is effective. If one warship fires on another it could lead to a chain of events that kills us all

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        Ww2 started because everyone bent over for the Germans and Japanese, which encouraged them.

        In this case, si vis pacem, para bellum.

        Either putin is sane and pulls back, or he’s insane and war was inevitable.

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          Ww2 started because everyone bent over for the Germans and Japanese, which encouraged them

          This is extremely simplified and comes off as silly. German appeasement was partially because France and Britain wanted Germany to attack the USSR, partially because they needed time to rearm. The US empire had a policy of provocation and containment of the Japanese empire.

          In the era of nuclear powers wars are done with non nuclear proxies to avoid a nuclear exchange.

          WW2 was pre-nuclear weapons. It turns out that changing material conditions makes old responses inappropriate.

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            The US empire had a policy of provocation and containment of the Japanese empire.

            We stopped selling them oil and steel, that’s it. After they butchered and butchered China including the rape of Nanking.

            Dude, look in the mirror, you need to live with that person and you’re excusing the crimes of Unit 731.

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              Dude, look in the mirror, you need to live with that person and you’re excusing the crimes of Unit 731.

              1. Not a dude, stop assuming everyone on the internet is.

              2. The pacific theater were two extremely violent empires duking it out.

              A) Do you think the US hasn’t done worse than the rape of Nanking and Unit 731?

              B) The US policy of containing Japan and economically provoking them does not mean that Japan was justified, it is simply the lead up to war between two incredibly violent factions competing over the same resources.

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                Unit 731?

                Show me something we did on that level, not acts of war like bombings, but actual monstrous cruelty on that level.

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                  We’re still doing Guantanamo Bay. Abu graib is another one. If youre looking for direct comparisons. We also went around teaching puppet governments how to torture dissidents.

                  Not to mention that we saved the Unit 731 scientists for their expertise.

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            In the era of nuclear powers wars are done with non nuclear proxies to avoid a nuclear exchange.

            Great, then we’ll give Ukraine F-35s, F-22s, B-1Bs, swarms of Predators and Reapers and be on our way then.

            See how easy it is to proxy war Zelensky right into Moscow with a smile.

            There are no “Rules” to war, people do what they do and you have to be ready for it. Putin made a catastrophic error and we have to prepare for all eventualities, both good and bad, which means para bellum.

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              Great, then we’ll give Ukraine F-35s, F-22s, B-1Bs, swarms of Predators and Reapers and be on our way then.

              Sure, why not? And while we are at it why not some white elephants?

              Also predators and reapers are meant for asymmetric operations where your opponent doesn’t have AA or an airforce.

              If you want to give Ukraine an advantage and continue the bloody war just make more artillery shells.

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    What a worthless blockade, the whole point of a blockade is to prevent ships from entering or leaving. I wonder if the Russian Black Sea fleet is even still operational.

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      You take that back!

      The Russian black fleet is the strongest submarine fleet on the planet, they launched their newest vessel, The Moskva, just last year!

      As the saying goes: “In the Russian Black Fleet, every ship is a potential submarine!”

      Russian submarine technology is sp advanced they’re preparing to convert the entire Kurch bridge into a submarine! Western technology cannot match!

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      Operational? Sure. But not actually operating in the Black Sea region they are supposedly blockading.
      Russia has long pulled many of their ships back to more secure locations to keep them from being targeted. It’s basically typical Russian posturing. They can pretend to block grain ships in the Black Sea all they want but to actually do it they would need to have control there.
      The only thing they could actually do is shooting missiles mostly blindly at everything that moves…

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    I’ll bet anyone 5 dollars and a pack of smokes that there’s some “Hunt for Red October” shit going on under the water.