Nah, they’re different, religion is a cancer, spirituality can give people a sense of belonging or being part of something bigger than themselves. Eat some mushrooms and tell me they’re the same thing lol.
Spirituality, even more than religion, is some broadly used word for all kinds of stuff like healing crystals, zodiac signs etc.
A sense of belonging can come from many things, that doesn’t make it true or good per se.
What you are describing is drug use. Spirituality may sound better for you, but it’s just bullshit for drug use. I’m not judging, but it is what it is.
A better inner-life (a more spiritual outlook) is actually key part of recovery from drugs and mental illness and can ignore god completely. Drugs can help experience it but aren’t necessary, my mushroom comment was a bit tongue-in-cheek but they have been used for millenia as a shortcut or aid to shamans and medicine men. To write off multiple cultures experiences as “just drug use” is incredibly dismissive and arrogant.
A better inner-life is possible without intermixing it with intangible hocus pocus. Calling something “spiritual” or retracting to it beeing “culture” is often used as protection against criticism and I see you do it here.
Something can be culture and still be criticized or called out for what it actually is. Slavery has been part of pretty much every culture at some point. Would you call me arrogant when I say it’s still inhumane and criminal behaviour?
And thats what I do. It’s been culture for centuries, but all the time, it was also “taking drugs, feeling like beeing part of something bigger charged with magical thinking”.
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All you say about spirituality can be said about religion. It helps people and gives them purpose and has been culture for thousands of years. Yet, you say
religion is a cancer
Isn’t that way more disrespectful, dismissive and arrogant that what I am doing? Whats your measure here?
There’s a reason I hate both religous people and athiests and part of it is because religous people follow dogma and athiests act like assholes towards people they view as beneath them and insert themselves in academia where they don’t belong
Both religous people and athiests have a holier-then-thou attitude
The word is ‘atheist’, you got the e and i mixed up.
I have not acted like an asshole, I have just pointed out facts, while the other called religion cancer. How am I the supposed asshole? Not giving in to bad arguments is not “acting like an asshole.”
I also do not view anyone beneath me, that’s a mean insinuation and most likely the beginning of a fabulous strawman.
insert themselves in academia where they don’t belong
What would that be an what does that have to do with anything I wrote?
One of the older meanings of “spirituality” was the idea of finding the origin of your thoughts and feelings with self-exploration and meditation, it’s about asking “why” of yourself about your experiences until you find some level of more pure truth. It had very little to do with anything mystical or even religious.
Everything that happens in the world happens in your own mind, spirituality is just the exploration of the mind to better understand the world.
So yeah, fuck those scumbags and pedos for abusing yet another good thing and perverting the meaning of the term even further.
Makes sense that he was Trump’s spiritual advisor.
I assume he was also Epstein’s spiritual advisor.
*Religious advisor, ain’t nothing spiritual about a man who follows dogma and I’m tired of people confusing spirituality with religon
Two piles of the same bullshit.
Nah, they’re different, religion is a cancer, spirituality can give people a sense of belonging or being part of something bigger than themselves. Eat some mushrooms and tell me they’re the same thing lol.
They’re different, but not opposite. It’s like comparing height and colour.
Spirituality, even more than religion, is some broadly used word for all kinds of stuff like healing crystals, zodiac signs etc. A sense of belonging can come from many things, that doesn’t make it true or good per se. What you are describing is drug use. Spirituality may sound better for you, but it’s just bullshit for drug use. I’m not judging, but it is what it is.
I’m sorry you feel that way.
A better inner-life (a more spiritual outlook) is actually key part of recovery from drugs and mental illness and can ignore god completely. Drugs can help experience it but aren’t necessary, my mushroom comment was a bit tongue-in-cheek but they have been used for millenia as a shortcut or aid to shamans and medicine men. To write off multiple cultures experiences as “just drug use” is incredibly dismissive and arrogant.
A better inner-life is possible without intermixing it with intangible hocus pocus. Calling something “spiritual” or retracting to it beeing “culture” is often used as protection against criticism and I see you do it here. Something can be culture and still be criticized or called out for what it actually is. Slavery has been part of pretty much every culture at some point. Would you call me arrogant when I say it’s still inhumane and criminal behaviour? And thats what I do. It’s been culture for centuries, but all the time, it was also “taking drugs, feeling like beeing part of something bigger charged with magical thinking”.
edit: All you say about spirituality can be said about religion. It helps people and gives them purpose and has been culture for thousands of years. Yet, you say
Isn’t that way more disrespectful, dismissive and arrogant that what I am doing? Whats your measure here?
You’re free to live your life the way you like but mistaking everyone with a spiritual belief as religious is incorrect. Have a nice day.
Are you an athiest ?
There’s a reason I hate both religous people and athiests and part of it is because religous people follow dogma and athiests act like assholes towards people they view as beneath them and insert themselves in academia where they don’t belong
Both religous people and athiests have a holier-then-thou attitude
The word is ‘atheist’, you got the e and i mixed up.
I have not acted like an asshole, I have just pointed out facts, while the other called religion cancer. How am I the supposed asshole? Not giving in to bad arguments is not “acting like an asshole.”
I also do not view anyone beneath me, that’s a mean insinuation and most likely the beginning of a fabulous strawman.
What would that be an what does that have to do with anything I wrote?
Hating people is a bad thing.
One of the older meanings of “spirituality” was the idea of finding the origin of your thoughts and feelings with self-exploration and meditation, it’s about asking “why” of yourself about your experiences until you find some level of more pure truth. It had very little to do with anything mystical or even religious.
Everything that happens in the world happens in your own mind, spirituality is just the exploration of the mind to better understand the world.
So yeah, fuck those scumbags and pedos for abusing yet another good thing and perverting the meaning of the term even further.