I hate that I ever even bought that line. No shit they operate out of mosques and shit. Where the hell else would they operate out of in such a limited region.
That’s like saying I had no choice but to beat my wife at home because if I did it in public I’d get arrested.
No where in the UN charter, Geneva convention or any legal precident does it say war crimes are acceptable if you don’t have a choice, or its ok if you will be attacked by not breaching the convention. There is a damn good reason we keep those places protected and we are looking at the suffering losing them causes.
How about, your neighbor broken into your home, killed your kids, and locked you and your wife in your bedroom. You try breaking the door down to go and drive them out of your house, but apparently that’s wrong since your wife is in such close proximity and you fighting back puts her in danger.
So what your saying is war crimes are acceptable when you are losing?
You also missed the part where I took one of my neighbors kids after throwing shit over the fence, that there is years of history between us where we both attacked eachother, and that im apparently hiding behind wife shooting at you saying “hurt her its your fault”.
While I’d admit throughout this thread you’ve been fairly constructive for someone sympathetic to Israel, this post is particularly dense with propaganda talking points. There’s not strong evidence for Hamas using civilians as physical shields, Israel just calls civilians living in the same area as Hamas is operating (with neither party having any option to leave) human shields to justify their slaughter of those civilians.
If we want to work on the house analogy earlier, you took one of the invaders and their friend that happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time into the bedroom with you as prisoners. Your wife is hiding in the corner as best out of the way as you can, but the invaders keep shooting towards her anyways, she has a bullet lodged into her arm by the invaders even though she isn’t even involved, and they’re still shooting towards her. They’re also saying they are trying to get the prisoners but are shooting towards them, too. You’re pleading for them to stop shooting at you and your wife in exchange for releasing the prisoners, you aren’t even demanding your house back, but they keep firing because they actually just want all of you dead, don’t care about the prisoners in the slightest, and really just want you gone so they can have the last bit of your house.
I had a discussion on this point when we went over this at uni.
They aren’t signatories to the Geneva convention, UN Charter or any of the other rule based systems we have, however they can still done under crimes against humanity.
No criminal ever signed a declaration before they crime that they agree to follow our laws, but are prosecuted all the same.
I hate that I ever even bought that line. No shit they operate out of mosques and shit. Where the hell else would they operate out of in such a limited region.
That’s like saying I had no choice but to beat my wife at home because if I did it in public I’d get arrested.
No where in the UN charter, Geneva convention or any legal precident does it say war crimes are acceptable if you don’t have a choice, or its ok if you will be attacked by not breaching the convention. There is a damn good reason we keep those places protected and we are looking at the suffering losing them causes.
How about, your neighbor broken into your home, killed your kids, and locked you and your wife in your bedroom. You try breaking the door down to go and drive them out of your house, but apparently that’s wrong since your wife is in such close proximity and you fighting back puts her in danger.
So what your saying is war crimes are acceptable when you are losing?
You also missed the part where I took one of my neighbors kids after throwing shit over the fence, that there is years of history between us where we both attacked eachother, and that im apparently hiding behind wife shooting at you saying “hurt her its your fault”.
While I’d admit throughout this thread you’ve been fairly constructive for someone sympathetic to Israel, this post is particularly dense with propaganda talking points. There’s not strong evidence for Hamas using civilians as physical shields, Israel just calls civilians living in the same area as Hamas is operating (with neither party having any option to leave) human shields to justify their slaughter of those civilians.
If we want to work on the house analogy earlier, you took one of the invaders and their friend that happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time into the bedroom with you as prisoners. Your wife is hiding in the corner as best out of the way as you can, but the invaders keep shooting towards her anyways, she has a bullet lodged into her arm by the invaders even though she isn’t even involved, and they’re still shooting towards her. They’re also saying they are trying to get the prisoners but are shooting towards them, too. You’re pleading for them to stop shooting at you and your wife in exchange for releasing the prisoners, you aren’t even demanding your house back, but they keep firing because they actually just want all of you dead, don’t care about the prisoners in the slightest, and really just want you gone so they can have the last bit of your house.
This isn’t a conventional army. It’s an unconventional uprising against their oppressors. Normal rules do not apply.
I had a discussion on this point when we went over this at uni.
They aren’t signatories to the Geneva convention, UN Charter or any of the other rule based systems we have, however they can still done under crimes against humanity.
No criminal ever signed a declaration before they crime that they agree to follow our laws, but are prosecuted all the same.