• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      I don’t know about you, but I said when the news came out that I’m waiting to see how it plays out.

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      Amazed that you still believe them, it’s been 8 months of leaking stories about how much Biden hates what Israel is doing (while providing unlimited support and protection). Then again, yall spent 9 years convinced that Trump is going to prison next week.

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        Believe whom? The tankies? The maga in lefty clothes? The kremlin social media disrupters? All pushing the genocide Joe idea in an attempt to remove Biden.

        The president of the United States does not have the power to control another country. Nor do the other 191 countries in the UN who have been silent.

        And, I don’t think Trump will ever go to prison. So, I’m not sure which group you’re lumping me in with. It’s wishful thinking at best.

        Israel can go fuck itself, for the record.

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          The tankies? The maga in lefty clothes? The kremlin social media disrupters?

          Why would any of your bogeymen be claiming that Biden hates genocide?

          Centrists will throw unfounded conspiracy theory accusations like this at anyone who dares to suggest that Biden should stop supporting genocide.

          But say that centrists support genocide…

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              Sure. Centrists see someone on their left, and then summarily announce that they must be spreading misinformation, usually accompanied by an accusation that the person in question must fall into one of a small number of archetypes that can be dismissed without thinking.

              These archetypes often coincide with groups conservatives hate, such as communists and foreigners.

              Lemmy is a tiny, fledgling platform full of hostile centrists. Why would anyone want to spread misinformation here? There’s no ROI to speak of.

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                No roi that you see. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Small or niche communities are easy to steer. Most of Lemmy probably have other social media like Reddit or Twitter. Plant a seed and watch it grow.

                That’s why lots of stuff gets credited to 4chan, or similar. For example: Pizzagate. Totally false. Started on a niche network.

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          Believe whom?

          Liberal media, the guys who trick you every week into thinking Biden wants to stop doing <unambiguously evil thing>, he’s just unable to, or actually it’s electorally unpopular not to facilitate genocide, build Trump’s wall, continue locking immigrants in camps, send bombs to Ukraine/Taiwan/Saudi Arabia, sanction Cuba, or increase the tariff on EVs and solar panels.

          These things didn’t stop being bad when team blue started doing them instead of Trump.

          The president of the United States does not have the power to control another country

          The US literally gives Israel the bombs they drop on Gaza, the direct military support that stops neighboring countries from helping, and the diplomatic support that prevents Israel from being more economically isolated than North Korea.

          And all three of these things are within the purview of the executive.

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      They’re still here. Hell, one of them praises Lebanon is fighting a good fight, and I pointed out Hezbollah isn’t exactly what you should support. In addition, get this, I’m not even anywhere near being pro-Israel, but rather anti-ME(Middle East) as a whole as they have culture of grudges and war crimes and hyper-religiousity.

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      Are you saying people should stop criticizing Biden because a spokesman “expects” Israel to stop genociding? He still sent billions of dollars in weapons long after it was clear was Israel is doing.