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    If “accused” means “charged” then absolutely not. Local police have, as they generally do, charged protestors with some selected kinds of nonsense whether technically-valid or not, in addition to just roughing them up and arresting them and then admitting they didn’t do anything wrong and letting them go.

    The federal government has bought into a certain amount of the propaganda and said some ignorant shit, and hasn’t been doing much to discourage the police from doing that, but as far as I’m aware, “antisemitism” in the current propaganda construction is still perfectly legal and likely to remain so (whatever non-binding resolutions congress wants to make about it.)

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        The Tucker Carlson thing only works when you can Just Ask Questions in a place where people can’t ackshually provide the answer.

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          Trucker? Why is u looping in pootin’s lapdog here?

          While my statement was hyperbolic, your additional context doesn’t make it look any better but I do appreciate the input so people can see for themselves :)

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            I looped in Tucker because it kinda looked like you asked a question implying a certain answer, and then tried to make fun of me when I provided the answer (which was different than the one you implied).

            No?

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                  First statement: hyperbolic joke to make a point

                  Second statement: response to clarify actual facts.

                  You are still acting in bad faith here BTW or you have poor reading comprehension.

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                    Your joke was a hyperbolic exaggeration of an imaginary situation where Biden is the primary authority suppressing criticism of Israel. He isn’t. Roughly in order, it’s local police, then congress (not really), then Biden (not at all). That’s why I reacted negatively to the joke, and to your clarification of “actual facts.”

                    I left some room for reasonable interpretation of what you said, since “accuse” can mean either formal or informal and they’re very different here. But “imprison” and “federal and state” kind of biases the interpretation towards something formal. But in any case, when I clarified exactly what I think about it, you sent me a clown emoji and got hostile about it and claimed I was changing my position. And you’re confused that I’m not being super friendly? There’s a big difference between someone not being polite to you and them speaking in bad faith.

                    I sort of have a hair trigger for this stuff because I’m accustomed at this point to all the propaganda-bots coming out of the woodwork saying “Biden Biden Biden” any time they get a chance to draw some weird tortured-logic connection between him and some unrelated story about something bad. So if it sounded like I jumped down your throat I apologize. But Biden doesn’t really have much to do with Israel rejecting the cease fire, or with suppression of the protests, so it’s gonna irritate me whenever someone pops into a story to bring his name into the picture out of nowhere.