• azi@mander.xyz
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    10 months ago

    Super disappointing. So many more people are going to be using alone and dying because of this.

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    10 months ago

    Good. if people want to do drugs, that is their choice, but we are getting sick of it happening next to our door way where the heavy stink of weed is choking us out. Or you go to a kids park and aome asshat is puffing away making it so kids are forced to breath it in. Is it too much to ask recreational users to have common decency and show respect for others space?

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        10 months ago

        when the gov’t decriminalized possession, and allowed smoking in parks, every doucjbag took that as I will smoke it in your kids face because cops had no power to move that person along.

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      10 months ago

      These people are struggling and our comfort should come second as many drug users end up dying alone because it is stigmatized.

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        10 months ago

        The problem is that you can want that all you like, but you won’t get it because people are, frankly, people, and all that statement does is anger people who don’t have the experience and/or empathy that you do.

        You need to convince people why they need to support safe-consumption sites and increased healthcare, and you need to do it by explaining why it benefits them, not the people struggling because, and again, this is hard to hear they don’t care about addicts, but they do care about, eg, not having their stuff stolen.

        A lot of advocates really struggle with this, and I’ve personally seen support for a safe-use site torpedoed by an advocate who was offended by people saying “It’s good to see an safe-consumption site, it’ll really help” and telling them “It’s for them, it’s not about you!”

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        10 months ago

        It ia not just homeless though, I’m talking about a person with a nice house and vehicle, deciding their drug habit can come out to a public place and should be everyone elses problem.

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      10 months ago

      The solution to this is to make sure EVERYONE is housed.

      Not to ban people from doing something that they’re 100% going to do because they’re so far gone they don’t care about the consequences anyways.

      This re-criminalization allows cops to move them along, but it won’t jail them. Nobody is going to get incarcerated for smoking pot next to your house.

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        my neighbours at my patio and at the park have homes, they just don’t give a shit necause they can smoke amywhere…per the old law repeal. We were thankful for the Winter rain because it stopped the one person coming outsode their house to smoke a bong on the sidewalk

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          10 months ago

          You’re still allowed to smoke weed in public… this law doesn’t apply to that. It only applies to Illicit drugs, weed has been legal for years.

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    Every and all narcotic must be made illegal with choice of treatment and recovery for 6 months or 12 months imprisonment.

    If an addict choices treatment and recovery, they will need a lot of close personal relationships because people make life worth living, so it would help them to build friendships with people who have never had a substance issue. I hope people are open to building a connection with someone going through recovery, but only if the person stays clean.

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      10 months ago

      We tried that. It didn’t work. Other countries tried that. It also didn’t work.

      Your desire for things to be black and white doesn’t make your idea functionally in reality.

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        10 months ago

        Countries like Singapore where there’s death penalty for drug possession/trafficking — whether we agree with it or not is secondary here, just highlighting purely from a whether or not it is working point of view — seems to be working.

        I’m not condoning the death penalty, far from it; but I’m inclined to think actual enforcement (instead of catch and release that we have now), with support programs to get people off the stuff, will steer the needle towards better direction, as opposed to decriminalizing it and let people who needs help continue to abuse illicit drugs the way they want, where they want, when they want.

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          10 months ago

          brings up singapore as a positive example but then talks about wanting a rehabilitative system instead…

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        10 months ago

        I an talking about a total change of culture from how Canadians are now see how Canadian born people are callous and pretentious or contrived.

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          10 months ago

          Some of us aren’t. Mostly the government has done quite well in stamping out regional Canadian culture into inoffensive Tim Horton sadness