• dangblingus@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    79
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    1 year ago

    This shouldn’t be surprising to anyone. And it’s a death knell of the internet as we know it. It won’t be today or tomorrow, but slowly, over the next few years, expect surface level internet services to be extremely user unfriendly. I expect normies to just accept their fate and pay access fees to literally every website and service they use, while more tech savvy or explorative people might find their way to federated spaces or Usenet, etc.

        • fievel@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          25
          ·
          1 year ago

          Exactly this is the problem, when I talk non-geek (including my wife) about privacy they answer “what the hell have you to hide !” … It’s so difficult to convince people :'(

        • RagingNerdoholic
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          23
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          But they do care about their money. Explain it in ways that will resonate with them.

          Without ad blocking, they’ll encounter “scam ads” that take over the browser and demand calling “support” that collects their credit card info and costs them hundreds of dollars in fraudulent charges. At the very least, it’s a pain in the ass they have deal with by calling their credit card provider to cancel the charges.

          Security extensions from antivirus/antimalware applications won’t work and subject them to even more of the above.

          Malicious “attestation” services can falsely verify unscrupulous websites as legitimate.

        • Goodie@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          11
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          1 year ago

          If you have a better plan, let me know.

          Otherwise you can roll over and let the internet die and ill do what i can.

          • QuasiMono@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            arrow-down
            14
            ·
            1 year ago

            Allrighty mr. Dramagoodie. You go fight the good fight, or whatever your psykosis is called. Firefox is life, but normies be normies. You make zero impact.

            • Iteria@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              27
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              Firefox literally used to be a significant browser before Chrome showed up. Users have to download Chrome. It’s not like it default. It’s just a matter of changing habits. They swapped from Firefox to Chrome they can back. They’ll do it for thr same reason so many people left IE for Firefox: it sucked.

              When ads get overbearing and scammy, your favorite neighbor IT guy will install Firefox for them or something and tell them to use it. A child or grandchild will do the same. So it has always been. That’s how adblock even became so big. People didn’t use it before.

              Ads are so bad now, I actually went out of my way to install Firefox on my phone. My less technical relatives just refuse to use anything but apps.

              • azuth@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                3
                ·
                1 year ago

                I think some people must be young and have not witnessed the late 90s, early 00s, before Firefox.

                You had way more new users whose only notion of the internet was the blue e icon. Macs were less popular and of course there were no smartphones.

                Microsoft pulled all the bullshit. “Extending” the standards so standards compliant browsers would not work, serving broken pages on non IE browsers and convincing an enormous amount of moron webmasters to tell you to go “upgrade” to IE while your browser could perfectly render their site.

                Yet Firefox did break that stranglehold.

                But you need to connect with people. Don’t try to do it via relatively abstract concepts such as privacy or freedom. Tell them that they won’t be able to block any ads in a year or so if they keep using Chrome. That they won’t be able to download whatever they want… etc etc.

        • AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          The internet was better before the normies joined. “I don’t see the problem, Chrome is fine, I don’t care if it spies” is a very common thing I hear.

    • Ton@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      40
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      The silver lining here might also be that the internet that we knew and loved 25 years ago might actually reappear. The ‘other’ stuff would just become background noise to the ones ‘in the know’.

      • Beliriel@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        22
        ·
        1 year ago

        Lol wouldn’t that be epic. IRC becoming a big thing again because discord, whatsapp, and all thr other business social media go to shit.

      • thehatfox@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        16
        ·
        1 year ago

        I sometimes wonder if this would be best outcome. Rather than spending so much effort trying to fight for the internet at large, those of us “in the know” just take our balls and go play in our own corner.

        The fediverse might be a test of this it continues to survive but never turns mainstream.

        • rolaulten@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          1 year ago

          There is an author - Tad Williams, who wrote the “Otherland” series. One of the chapters has the some of the main ensemble going to “treehouse” - aka what happened in this universe when the nerds, geeks and techno wizards took their ball and went home. The series as a whole is interesting if you like sci-fi. That chapter however seems more and more on the nose the older I get.