I know what the Creative Commons is but not this new thing or why it keeps popping up in comments on Lemmy

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    8 months ago

    Because people don’t understand how copyright works.

    In most countries any copyrightable work that you produce is automatically covered by copyright. You don’t need to do anything additional to gain that protection.

    Most Lemmy instances don’t have any sort of licensing grant in their terms of service. So that means that the original author maintains all ownership of their work.

    So technically what these people are doing is granting a license to their comment that allows it to be used for more than would otherwise be allowed by the default copyright protections.

    What they are probably trying to accomplish is to revoke the ability for commercial enterprises to use their comments. However that is already the default state so it is pretty irrelevant. Basically any company that cares about copyright and thinks that what they are doing isn’t allowed as fair use already wouldn’t be able to use their comments without the license note. So by adding the license note all they are doing is allowing non-commercial AI to scrape it (which is probably not what was intended). Of course most AI scraping companies don’t care about copyright or think that their use is not protected under copyright. So it is again irrelevant.

    • PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Ding ding ding. It’s basically the equivalent of that “I don’t give Facebook permission to use my statuses, pictures, etc for commercial purposes…” chain letter that boomers love to post. It has enough fancy legalese and sounds juuuust plausible enough that it’ll get anyone who doesn’t already understand the law.

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          That was my thought as well.

          Now that I understand it, I’ll be able to block the bloc of boneheads.

          I know that a broken clock is right twice a day but using a broken clock is just dumb. Out of the 1440 minutes in a day, it gets 1438 of them wrong? Broken clocks get binned.

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          Definitely along the same vein, except it doesn’t drag a bunch of innocent people into it like SovCitizens do when they drive without a license or insurance or refuse to pay back loans/credit cards.

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          Ohhh come on now, you’ve got too see the irony here. Don’t you get tired of repeatedly adding that license? No, of course not. You just like the attention, it’s okay lol I won’t tell anyone your secret ;)

          • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
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            Don’t you get tired of repeatedly adding that license?

            I’d prefer if Lemmy had a signature field as part of the account, so I could put it there once and forget about it, yes.

            But otherwise it’s a long press copy, and a long press paste, and I’m done. It’s not rocket science.

            No, of course not. You just like the attention, it’s okay lol I won’t tell anyone your secret ;)

            No human being on this planet would want to be constantly harassed by, and having to defend themselves from, astroturfers/bots who are trying to prevent other people from jumping on the bandwagon of protecting their content by licensing it explicitly.

            It’s a pain in the ass speaking with people like you, especially the when they think that they’re ‘Winning!’ with their assumed snappy replies.

            I’ll be explicit, again. Leave me the f alone about my using of a license! If you don’t like seeing the license as part of my comments, FEEL FREE TO BLOCK ME. The repetitiveness is becoming harassment.

            Anti Commercial-AI license (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0)

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              protecting their content by licensing it explicitly.

              You can do whatever you want, of course. But any license you put on your content here protects it less than not putting any license at all. That’s after all what licenses are for, granting people use of your content.

              So you’re not so much protecting your comments, but graciously allowing them to be used for training for non-commercial purposes, where most people are greedily keeping them to themselves. I suppose that’s admirable.

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                So you’re not so much protecting your comments, but graciously allowing them to be used for training for non-commercial purposes, where most people are greedily keeping them to themselves. I suppose that’s admirable.

                You’re not telling me anything that I don’t already know.

                I have no problem for my content being used for open-source reasons. Commercial reasons without compensation is another matter.

                Anti Commercial-AI license (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0)

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      So by adding the license note all they are doing is allowing non-commercial AI to scrape it (which is probably not what was intended).

      I have no problem with non-commercial scraping. It’s commercial scraping that doesn’t compensate me for my content that I have a problem with.

      Anti Commercial-AI license (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0)

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            I don’t care about seeing your content. I’m sure its good. I just believed that the internet was a tool to end data scarcity and instead we’ve moved much further back and now with all this stuff we’re just putting nails in that coffin. I still hold out for a world were data is shared and people collaborate to produce new content.

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        Ok. So you should probably frame your license like that. Instead of saying “Anti Commercial-AI license” say “Pro Non-commercial-AI license”.

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          So you should probably frame your license like that. Instead of saying “Anti Commercial-AI license” say “Pro Non-commercial-AI license”.

          I don’t think you need to get hung up on a sentence describing what my purpose was for including the license in my comment.

          Anti Commercial-AI license (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0)