I know what the Creative Commons is but not this new thing or why it keeps popping up in comments on Lemmy

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    8 months ago

    I dislike it but merely because it normalizes having to sign content with an anti commercialization license to refuse to have your data harvested. Contributing to AI should be opt-in.

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      8 months ago

      I agree it should be opt in but most platforms take ownership of your words as soon as they are submitted allowing the platform to decide if they want to sell the data for ai.

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        8 months ago

        I agree it should be opt in but most platforms take ownership of your words as soon as they are submitted allowing the platform to decide if they want to sell the data for ai.

        Lemmy.World does not (at least I didn’t see that in the TOS).

        And besides, because of federation, its better if I explicitly state my claim to my content inside of the content itself.

        Anti Commercial-AI license (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0)

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      7 months ago

      I dislike it but merely because it normalizes having to sign content with an anti commercialization license to refuse to have your data harvested. Contributing to AI should be opt-in.

      Please let your House Representative know that.

      Congress may (and probably will, one way or another) change that in the nearish future. But until then, you protect your content in the legal ways that you can.

      I too would prefer not having to add the license/link to each of my comments. If Lemmy.World added a ‘signature’ field to an account, I could just put it there once and be done with it.

      Anti Commercial-AI license (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0)

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        8 months ago

        You don’t need to license each of your comments. By default you retain all ownership. So you applying a license is strictly allowing more use. Basically if AI training was not allowed due to copyright than they can’t use any comment by default. If AI training is fair-use (which seems to be most companies’ claim) then it is irrelevant how you have licensed the comment.

        In no situation does granting an additional license to a work restrict the ways in which works can be used under other licenses.

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            8 months ago

            No, it is more. You aren’t restricting anything, it is just a superset of uses. If you want to explicitly license your comments for wider use that is fine, but don’t misrepresent it as “Anti Commercial-AI”. Just frame it as licensed for non-commercial use.

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              No, it is more. You aren’t restricting anything, it is just a superset of uses. If you want to explicitly license your comments for wider use that is fine,

              There are restrictions included in that license, you’re incorrect in that.

              But my point, which you are ignoring, is that when someone includes a license it doesn’t have to be for more restrictive nature, or for more open one, but just different from the default if the content was not explicitly notated with a licensed.

              but don’t misrepresent it as “Anti Commercial-AI”. Just frame it as licensed for non-commercial use.

              I’m not misrepresenting anything, you’re the one getting overly hung up on that short layman’s sentence which describes my purpose for including the license in the comment.

              The actual representation of the license it’s included to the right of that sentence.

              I’m pretty sure we’re not going to agree on this, you really weirdly seem hung up on this, and I’m not agreeing with your opinion on the matter, so let’s move on from this point.

              Anti Commercial-AI license (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0)