This is so much more than just a race issue, its also an LGBTQ and neurodivergence issue, while I may not like Biden, Trump and his crew have both said things and acted in ways that attack basically anyone that isn’t in the in group they deem as worthwhile, republicans have also been pushing forward increasingly hostile anti-trans, anti-abortion laws, and Trump as president would bolster their ability to harm vulnerable groups even more
I really hate Biden’s unquestioning support of Israel but holy fuck under Trump some of my friends might actually die, and others will lose their rights to be themselves!
Lets also not forget Trump and his fans pushing for things that could very well spell the actual end of democracy in the US.
Edit: I didn’t mean to subtract from the race issue, that’s also a big part of it, I simply mean to say that Trump is a massive broad spectrum threat to multiple vulnerable groups across the US
Also edited because apparently this isn’t readily apparent to some people: under Trump, the genocide of Palestinians will continue, I am very very much against this, the “holy fuck” line is not expressing that I think the genocide of Palestinians is secondary, but is expressing exasperation at the people who constantly insist that the only way to protest is to not vote not seeing the problem with Trump getting into power
While I’m at it, pretty much whatever the results of the election are, shit will probably hit the fan, I urge everyone to learn first aid, a good start is www.stopthebleed.org
Out of curiosity, let’s say someone wants to make the best possible decision for Palestinians. Meaning using their vote to produce the best possible outcome for Palestinians.
Who should they be voting for? How would it impact the situation? Why would that be the best? What is the risk assessment? In other words, how likely is successful, how good is success and how damaging is failure?
It will make no material difference who you vote for. You cannot say “trump will be worse” when people are being firebombed in Rafah right now and the guy in power is doing nothing to stop it, and in fact actively blocking attempts to make it stop. You’ve got student protests being smeared as antisemitic and being violently broken up by police and zionists. From where I’m standing, it really really seems that my 2020 “harm reduction” vote backfired hard and really just gave cover for all of this horrible shit to happen anyways.
So you believe that voting for trump would have caused a better result? Because otherwise how did it backfire? If it makes no material difference?
If you don’t think voting trump would have been better, who should people have voted for? I don’t want to repeat my question but now I am curious about your answers to both last and next election.
These people don’t have answers to this question because they’re not interested in answers. They just want to feel smug and superior to everyone. Literally nothing would be good enough for them
It is fine that you feel that way but I would like to know their thoughts. If they are right, they will be able to argue their position. If they are just e.g. smug, then they will avoid giving answers and at some point, reflection might kick in and they might actually try to argue with themselves and find the answers that we are all looking for. If they are just smug, that is. I don’t know but maybe they have the answers
Found the white leftist.
Moghafil, you don’t get to use my people’s plight as an excuse to get out of your bare minimum duty to protect lives with your choices.
This is so much more than just a race issue, its also an LGBTQ and neurodivergence issue, while I may not like Biden, Trump and his crew have both said things and acted in ways that attack basically anyone that isn’t in the in group they deem as worthwhile, republicans have also been pushing forward increasingly hostile anti-trans, anti-abortion laws, and Trump as president would bolster their ability to harm vulnerable groups even more
I really hate Biden’s unquestioning support of Israel but holy fuck under Trump some of my friends might actually die, and others will lose their rights to be themselves!
Lets also not forget Trump and his fans pushing for things that could very well spell the actual end of democracy in the US.
Edit: I didn’t mean to subtract from the race issue, that’s also a big part of it, I simply mean to say that Trump is a massive broad spectrum threat to multiple vulnerable groups across the US
Also edited because apparently this isn’t readily apparent to some people: under Trump, the genocide of Palestinians will continue, I am very very much against this, the “holy fuck” line is not expressing that I think the genocide of Palestinians is secondary, but is expressing exasperation at the people who constantly insist that the only way to protest is to not vote not seeing the problem with Trump getting into power
While I’m at it, pretty much whatever the results of the election are, shit will probably hit the fan, I urge everyone to learn first aid, a good start is www.stopthebleed.org
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You’re voting for the guy blocking the ICC from prosecuting Netanyahu btw
https://www.commondreams.org/news/netanyahu-arrest-warrants
And by not voting for him, you’re voting for the guy who gave Netenyahu the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and the Golan Heights.
I know damn well who Netenyahu would be voting for if he got the choice, and that’s all you need to know too if you aren’t just a bougeyvik fascist.
Not to mention the guy who ALSO will block the ICC from prosecuting Netanyahu.
Not how voting works
probably the guy blocking the International Criminal Court from prosecuting him for documented war crimes
Out of curiosity, let’s say someone wants to make the best possible decision for Palestinians. Meaning using their vote to produce the best possible outcome for Palestinians.
Who should they be voting for? How would it impact the situation? Why would that be the best? What is the risk assessment? In other words, how likely is successful, how good is success and how damaging is failure?
It will make no material difference who you vote for. You cannot say “trump will be worse” when people are being firebombed in Rafah right now and the guy in power is doing nothing to stop it, and in fact actively blocking attempts to make it stop. You’ve got student protests being smeared as antisemitic and being violently broken up by police and zionists. From where I’m standing, it really really seems that my 2020 “harm reduction” vote backfired hard and really just gave cover for all of this horrible shit to happen anyways.
So you believe that voting for trump would have caused a better result? Because otherwise how did it backfire? If it makes no material difference?
If you don’t think voting trump would have been better, who should people have voted for? I don’t want to repeat my question but now I am curious about your answers to both last and next election.
These people don’t have answers to this question because they’re not interested in answers. They just want to feel smug and superior to everyone. Literally nothing would be good enough for them
It is fine that you feel that way but I would like to know their thoughts. If they are right, they will be able to argue their position. If they are just e.g. smug, then they will avoid giving answers and at some point, reflection might kick in and they might actually try to argue with themselves and find the answers that we are all looking for. If they are just smug, that is. I don’t know but maybe they have the answers