A top Hamas political official told The Associated Press the Islamic militant group is willing to agree to a truce of five years or more with Israel and that it would lay down its weapons and convert into a political party if an independent Palestinian state is established along pre-1967 borders.

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      8 months ago

      Unless you are responding under a different account, I am going to give the original commentator a chance to respond and revise his statement.

      Claiming that the modern political apparatus of Palestine are mere freedom fighters is a lie, and I will not engage with it.

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        No, not same person.

        So in other words you’re a Zionist?

        GREAT! /s

        Every action has a equal and opposite action. Eg you attack civvies you create ‘terrorists’ aka Hama’s

        Israel created a problem that allows them to syphon money from other countries for committing genocide

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          I believe both Jews and Palestinians deserve to live in their homeland. If that belief causes a few bad actors supporting Hamas to call me a Zionist as a slur, so be it.

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              If you mean that they are human as much as the Jews are, than yes.

              But the idea that Palestinians are secret Jews by genetics is something that the Palestinian people would likely reject.

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            I believe both Jews and Palestinians deserve to live in their homeland

            Yet your only concern has been for Isreal, the ones doing a genocide.

            Excuse us if we don’t believe you at all

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              You don’t know a thing about me or my beliefs and you have zero percent interest in knowing them. Pretending to have that knowledge is your goal here.

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                Pretty angry and defensive take when all I did was point out the behaviour you’ve had in this thread

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                  The fact that you are accusing me unprovoked of being angry at you leads me to believe your intent in this dialog is to try and make me angry.

                  Perhaps in your mind anger is the correct response when somebody lies and misconstrues, but you are ignoring the fact that I expect that kind of behavior out of Pro-Hamas accounts.

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                    Nah, homie, people going “you don’t know me or my beliefs” are clearly upset at being called out on their behaviour online, thats why I said you’re angry.

                    Still claiming people you don’t agree with are pro-hamas? Pathetic.

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        What does it matter if they have other political motives? The world is enabling their utter annihilation, children, babies, innocent people with no political ambition. That must be stopped before we wring our hands about what they might do with freedom. They are human beings, people with lives and families, not wild rabid animals.

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          The world isn’t enabling a Palestinian annihilation. The world is working to resolve the conflict.

          You guys need to stop pretending that you are the only good people and everybody else is evil. That’s part of the issue here.

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              I am Canadian-American and haven’t met a single person who likes genocide.

              Maybe you hang out with different kinds of people in different parts of the world.

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                I guess you haven’t met the defense contrators, weapons manufacturers and politicians who are rich because of wars and genocide. I haven’t personally met many of them either, average people don’t associate with those types.

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                  If genocides were good for profits, every nation beholden to capitol would be engaging in them.

                  That’s the issue with genocides for capitalists, by definition they have an end goal and thus a theoretical point in which the profits cease.

                  A genocide is probably better understood as an outflow of desperation on the behalf of corporatists.

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                    True, I don’t think pragmatic people in the arms industry would push for genocide, a more drawn out, even conflict would be better for their profits probably. But if there is one they can make money on they will, even if one side is eradicated and the fighting stops there are always other conflicts.

                    In the example of Israel, if they succeed in eradicating their current target (Palestine) there will be more enemies for them to fight, so they would still be a valuable client of Lockheed Martin et al.