I can understand conservatism at a base level. While it’s not something I agree with, I can see why people would lean towards it, and respect that people have different political beliefs.
However, as someone in Europe…what most Americans believe is conservatism would be very right-wing anywhere else in the developed world. If anything, many conservatives in Europe are at odds with the rise of the right, as populism has pushed traditional conservatism out of the conservative parties. In the UK, Boris Johnson literally kicked many conservatives out of the conservatives for not backing him on a Brexit vote, leaving the current PM Rishi Sunak looking at an election wipeout AND basically no MP’s remaining that believe in what the party was originally about.
I feel for those that have lost their party, because it basically means that the likes of Trump (win or lose) will likely mean few people that can continue their beliefs in their primary party.
I don’t feel sorry for the people who “lost” their party. To start, it was never a good party to begin with and for the final nail in the coffin, they didn’t fucking fight very hard to not lose it, did they?
The people who lost the Republican party were already far right by european standards. The average Democrat is closer to your moderate Euro conservative, sans immigration and maybe LGBT rights
Eh, in the UK moderate conservatives brought through equal marriage rights and were quietly content about increasing immigration while talking a big game about it to appease the swivel eyed tabloid readers.
Then Brexit and Boris happened.
My point being the DNC are on Parr with moderate UK conseratives. The problem we have over here now is that the Labour Party have been sprinting to the right to try and gobble up those disaffected conservative moderates as those swing voters are worth twice that of any conscientious lefty’s. So they’re currently barely indistinguishable from the 2010 Conservative/LibDem coalition.
I can understand conservatism at a base level. While it’s not something I agree with, I can see why people would lean towards it, and respect that people have different political beliefs.
However, as someone in Europe…what most Americans believe is conservatism would be very right-wing anywhere else in the developed world. If anything, many conservatives in Europe are at odds with the rise of the right, as populism has pushed traditional conservatism out of the conservative parties. In the UK, Boris Johnson literally kicked many conservatives out of the conservatives for not backing him on a Brexit vote, leaving the current PM Rishi Sunak looking at an election wipeout AND basically no MP’s remaining that believe in what the party was originally about.
I feel for those that have lost their party, because it basically means that the likes of Trump (win or lose) will likely mean few people that can continue their beliefs in their primary party.
I don’t feel sorry for the people who “lost” their party. To start, it was never a good party to begin with and for the final nail in the coffin, they didn’t fucking fight very hard to not lose it, did they?
The people who lost the Republican party were already far right by european standards. The average Democrat is closer to your moderate Euro conservative, sans immigration and maybe LGBT rights
Eh, in the UK moderate conservatives brought through equal marriage rights and were quietly content about increasing immigration while talking a big game about it to appease the swivel eyed tabloid readers.
Then Brexit and Boris happened.
My point being the DNC are on Parr with moderate UK conseratives. The problem we have over here now is that the Labour Party have been sprinting to the right to try and gobble up those disaffected conservative moderates as those swing voters are worth twice that of any conscientious lefty’s. So they’re currently barely indistinguishable from the 2010 Conservative/LibDem coalition.
Your not owed a party though. It’s as much your individual responsibility to make or contribute to the spaces that represent you as anyone else’s.