Good thing we (the US) lost the war, or this lady would probably have her own team of lobbyists running their country.

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    The way these people affect so many lives negatively with their fraud is much worse than a person committing murder.

    The literal misery they cause to so many people for their own benefit without a fucking iota of shame and their sociopathic behavior is enough to consider eliminating them from society.

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      The way these people affect so many lives negatively with their fraud is much worse than a person committing murder.

      Irrespective how is two bad things better than one bad thing? I would think fewer bad things would be net better.

      The literal misery they cause to so many people for their own benefit without a fucking iota of shame and their sociopathic behavior is enough to consider eliminating them from society.

      You speak of “sociopathic behavior” while advocating state murder. 🤨

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        I know. It sounds fucked. But these people are a cancer on society. There’s very little that can be done to reform these people. And the problem is that capitalism rewards this kind of behaviour.

        These people currently are ruling the world. If they aren’t the head of some large company, there the head of a government. Because of their large wealth, they have a huge influence on the policies. They’re basically dictating the laws that are governing them. It’s like playing Monopoly with your own made up rules.

        You can’t stop those people any other way. The French understood this. When the price of food was out of reach, heads started to roll. Literally. Nowadays the people can’t be violent anymore. Heck, the mere act of peacefully protesting is met with police violence and oppression. How the fuck are we supposed to get the message across when those people have their own militia protecting them and their interests?

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          There’s very little that can be done to reform these people.

          Nothing you have tried so far.

          How the fuck are we supposed to get the message across when those people have their own militia protecting them and their interests?

          Have you ever considered “Progaganda Of The Deed” to encompass modeling being better people than the opposition?

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            That’s the problem. There’s one side that’s trying to play by the rules and be nice because they have empathy. Then there’s the other side who lie, cheat, and break the rules for their own benefit without shame.

            How the hell are you supposed to play the game and “be better” than the opposition, when the opposition is taking advantage of you?

            There has to be clear and grave consequences to discourage them from abusing the system and the people. If it has to be the death penalty, then so be it.

            I’m tired of our societies being run by a bunch of industry barons who own everything. Food barons, healthcare barons, banking barons, housing barons, you name it. The mega conglomerates that we can’t escape from who are literally destroying this planet and leeching off of everybody with made up excuses about the state of the “economy”. Having all the world’s fortune in the hands of about 10 people. We can’t stop this by playing nice and asking nicely. Not when they control governments with their financial influence or because they’ve become too big to fail. No. You build fucking guillotines and you execute the motherfuckers.

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              How the hell are you supposed to play the game and “be better” than the opposition, when the opposition is taking advantage of you?

              You do that by not murdering them after you have taken power and over the means of production.

              Having all the world’s fortune in the hands of about 10 people. We can’t stop this by playing nice and asking nicely.

              Alright so you’ve seized all the money in the world and taken over all the land and machinery that enables production through the application of labor via militant witholding of the same. You and your comrades have all the guns.

              …why at that point do you need to use those guns to murder people who are no longer holding murderous control over those common resources?

              I refuse to acquiesce to or defend a system of belief that requires people die.

              Once you win, you don’t kill or you never had moral authority to employ violence in pursuit of winning in the first place.

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      7 months ago

      fraud is much worse than a person committing murder

      you may be right but that’s still no reason to murder them