• aidan@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      I know, that’s not what I said though. I said the Romans did discriminate, against bottoms.

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        8 months ago

        Yeah but it was more of a condition than a social wedge issue. Hierarchal toxic masculinity shit, not so much class persecution, and didn’t in a lot of cases (I might be remembering a Greek thing, so easy to mix them up when roman culture is mostly a shitty port of Greek culture) topping/bottoming get based on age? Or did that not carry over?

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                8 months ago

                As in I’m saying ancient Greeks discriminated saw the act as demeaning/lesser, but did not, I don’t think, see it as an identity, abd what role one performed was based on status/age/whatever.

                One was not a bottom (though perhaps was x’s bottom), but did bottoming.

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                  8 months ago

                  Iirc, at least the Romans wrote rhymes insulting people who were especially career bottoms, but yeah I don’t know what they did as they got older.

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                    8 months ago

                    Like I said; I’m working from half remembered history of Greece, whose culture Rome’s was a shitty port of, but I wouldn’t put it past the romans to add hierarchal shittiness.