• The Snark Urge@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Can we be at least a little nicer about the point you’re making? Poor form to assume bad faith when anyone with a heart wants Biden doing more. The problem is that Israel is deliberately forcing Biden to eat shit on this issue because guess what, Bibi has every reason to prefer Trump in 2024.

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      8 months ago

      That dude, zerog_bandit, has repeatedly done genocide denial and justification.

      I think most US voters on here know that Trump will be significantly worse than Biden on Israel. Both candidates are pro-genocide, but at least Biden and Dems can be pressured to change. Not to mention that Trump wants to ramp up domestic fascism too.

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      8 months ago

      Unfortunately there are more nefarious forces that intend to sow defeatism and apathy. I had one such buffoon tell me they’re voting 3rd party. Don’t fall for this garbage.

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      8 months ago

      I don’t see anything assuming bad faith on the part of people complaining, only the implication of naïveté.

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        8 months ago

        Using the phrase ’ “genocide” claimers’ immediately discredits the discussion as a valid one. People dying everyday under the pretense of being Palestinian is not something to minimize. Naivete is not realizing the true devastation going on over there and the actions of Biden haven’t done much to stop and reverse that. We, as a country, are funding that and its difficult for those against this battle to come to terms with the lack of power we have. We need to hold our politicians accountable. I fully agree Trump is a giant POS and wouldn’t be a good alternative. The thing you have to be able to meet others with though is that Biden didn’t come through for us even when we, in mass, told him he’s wrong. Thats costly and him relying on indestructibility is going to likely show in the polls. Have a genuine conversation if you really want to sway votes

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          8 months ago

          It’s a serious problem with leaders this old, they think they know better than us. At a time of change in history, elders aren’t necessarily the best guides.