• filister@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Do you seriously believe that Israel will change how they treat Palestinians once they get all their hostages back? And that magically will start allowing more humanitarian aid and start killing so many innocent people?

    Or shall I better ask you if you still believe in unicorns and fairy tales

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        9 months ago

        “If we just don’t make a fuzz fuss and walk to the trains and the gas chambers peacefully, I’m sure they’ll treat us better”

        You can’t be that delusional

        edit fuzz -> fuss

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              9 months ago

              Fuss* it’s the best look to not proofread lol but I was just trying to let you know.

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                9 months ago

                Yeah that’s true, “fuzz” is what I had on my lip when I was 14.

                But “making fuses” also works in the context, lol.

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                9 months ago

                You know what was happening concurrently with WWII?

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revisionist_Zionism

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_insurgency_in_Mandatory_Palestine

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irgun_attacks

                So you’re claiming “Hamas started it”?

                Hamas was founded in the late 80’s.

                The Irgun were bombing Arabians in the 30’s, 50 years earlier.

                Irgun was described as a terrorist organization by The New York Times, the Anglo-American Committee of Enquiry, prominent world figures such as Winston Churchill and Jewish figures such as Hannah Arendt, Albert Einstein, and many others. Irgun launched a series of attacks which lasted until the founding of Israel. All told, Irgun attacks against Arab targets resulted in at least 250 Arab deaths during this period

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                    9 months ago

                    The Battle of Tel Hai, which lead to those protests, is a part of the Franco-Syrian war, and not even considered a part of the intercommunal conflict by many.

                    Ie not related to the conflict we’re talking about.

                    In the wake of the protests, sheikhs of 82 villages around the city and Jaffa, claiming to represent 70% of the population, issued a document protesting the demonstrations against the Jews.

                    The leaders of the local Arab community protested the Arab Nationalists, despite the growing Zionism.

                    You just can’t admit to Israel bearing any part of the blame. I show you history of zionists bombing hundreds of people dead and you think linking a small protest that was barely violent somehow makes the currently ongoing genocide alright?

                    That kind of willfull ignorance is what enabled the holocaust.

                    And now you’re proudly displaying it.

                    It turns my stomach, literally.

                    You don’t understand that I am not saying “Israel started it”. I’m mocking you for not realising how childish going “but mooooom, he started it” is.

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            9 months ago

            Lol you seriously said that with a straight face huh? Need to brush up on your history bud.

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                9 months ago

                Holy shit. It doesn’t matter if the Jews did committing acts of terrorism during ww2, and it doesn’t matter that Hamas has committed acts of terrorism.

                And I can tell you why it doesn’t matter in one (slightly run-on) sentence.

                Because no act of terrorism justifies the actions that Israel has taken against Palestinian civilians just as nothing that was done or could have been done by the Jews leading up to WW2 would have justified the holocaust

                There is no justification for genocide. Israel can attempt to eliminate Hamas for the actions committed on Oct 7th, but that doesn’t justify their complete disregard for civilian safety and well-being. (Nearly 30k palestinian civilians dead already)

                Also, I just want to make it clear that almost every piece of rhetoric that has been used to excuse Israel’s actions in this genocide, were also used to justify the actions taken against the Jews during WW2. And I’m sorry, but if you’re falling for it now, you probably would have fallen for it then too.