• Yash Raj@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    Nintendo competing to get the most evil corporation award from activision.

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      They’ll release a new Mario game and everyone will forget

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        You mean they’ll re-release a 30 year old game and charge the same price as a brand new game?

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          Nah, their games are amazing, credit where credit is due. The problem with Nintendo is everything else.

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            I’m not saying their games are bad. I’m just suggesting Mario 64 is due for another re-release at full price.

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              Its only been 3 years since they re-released it (bundled with two other games). Wasn’t that like a 17 year gap from the last time they released Mario 64 and skipping two generations? If so, next time should be late Switch 3 or Switch 4 and it’ll also include 3D world and Odyssey for full price. And given 3D all-stars was $15 cheaper than the original Mario 64, inflation adjusted, would the next be half the price?

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        Those loyal fans love sucking off Nintendo and defending every decision they make even when it fucks them in the ass in the long run.

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          You know those movies that were clearly made to sell money, instead of say anything interesting? It was as good as the last F&F movie.

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          Most don’t hear about it, and for every lost customer there’s a new generation of teenagers who don’t read the news to profit from

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            As if teenagers aren’t frothing at the mouth to be as rebellious and morally righteous as possible (some are some aren’t, depends on your local politics really)

            Come on dude. You act like you haven’t been a teenager in so long

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              I would argue that I’ve been a teenager most of my life, in the sense that I didn’t really know what I believed in until I was in my late twenties.

              Teenagers just rage in general, and if they’re coherent – at specific things – but mostly they just rage.

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          Oh come on now. When is the last time anyones grudge against megacorps actually mattered. EA has been under huge public scrutiny many times, at the end of the day it doesnt actually matter. Its a vocal minority, mostly, virtue signaling, while they keep paying the same corps.

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            Literally what hamas is doing right now.

            Literally what anonymous did in the US on several occasions during the early:mid 2000s

            Literally Wikileaks.

            Literally the Walmart protests.

            Big oil/global warming protests

            On and on

            Just because people haven’t cared enough about the things YOU deem a problem, doesn’t mean people don’t care. Don’t try and prescribe your altered reality on the rest of us.

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              Half of these have nothing to do with the topic at hand. And then the rest are top notch examples…

              Walmart has been supremely crippled by public opinion, hasn’t it? Such a strong public grudge, they are surely on the brink of running out of business. The big oil corps totally care about what you think. Nestle is sweating trying to keep their business afloat. Pre-orders are dead, early access is a failed business model. Blizzard is in shambles after the Blitzchung incident. And the sexual assault.

              On and on.

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                  Why do you say things like ‘goal posts’ and ‘strawman’ instead of actually talking like a conversation. From what I can tell the person you were responding to was talking about what made a difference, not what people care about. Many people care a lot about all the issues you mentioned but they were saying that the protests and boycotts didn’t directly make much of an impact against these companies or groups.

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                  Goalposts? Come on

                  actually mattered

                  Is what I said. We were talking about public grudge against megacorps, how Hamas, Wikileaks or Anonymous factors in the topic, Im really not sure.

                  And I also don’t really see how I’m strawmanning. I was maybe being faceticious. By all means correct me if I’m wrong.

                  Walmart raising wages might be seen as a successfull protest, but walmart is still exploiting unskilled labour for terrible wages, just not terrible enough for people to huff and puff over. What actually changed about walmart?

                  Big oil is still just as horrible, we are still plunging head first into full scale climate catastrophe by the end of the century in pursuit of profits. What has actually changed?

                  If you want to call this an example of succesfull public action with sizeable long term implications, I guess we have to agree to disagree. The way I see it these companies just do the bare minimum to muffle the loud voices and just wait until the collective memory moves on to the next thing on the news cycle.

                  Delusional if you think people easily forget grudges against big companies lmao

                  That is precisely what you said. And if we want to double back to your reply, both anonymous and wikileaks are largely forgotten as well.

                  Blizzard might have changed leadership but if the public grudge is really as strong (and not easily forgotten) as you imply, then where were all the people who yelled they would never support blizz again (after either incident, or the many smaller things people have hated), they released the garbage pile that is D4 and upon quick google it made roughly as much money as D3.

                  People dont remember this stuff for more than a week, and even then, the people talking about it are a vocal minority. Most people don’t care or can’t afford to care in the first place. And most of the loud ones are just virtue signal bandwaggoning. This was very evident on reddit, for example. People somehow had all the same talking points for about 2-3 weeks, then it was the next thing, the old one somehow forgotten.

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    At least the code is open source…

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    Lots of optimism for Yuzu living on in some fork of the code, but I don’t expect it will be that simple. Qualified new devs will not be likely to invest anywhere near the time and energy the original devs have. If they’re smart, they’ll avoid taking direct donations, which means the project will at best be a side hobby. Switch emulation will become a lot harder to document if development fragments into smaller forks. Not sure if a game is compatible or what settings to use? Maybe you’ll find some recommended settings for Yuzu Fork A, but not Fork G you set up because it has better compatibility with another game you were interested in. Information is going to be confusing, inaccurate, and inconsistent as the scene goes underground. Links and other sources won’t be as trustworthy or safe. What was once a fun and easy way to play games will become a risk and a chore. I’m glad there are immediate efforts to get the project back online, but I can’t see this settlement as anything less than a massive blow to emulation and game preservation as a whole. Decades of legal precedent that developers have relied on to safely do their work is being thrown out. Things are objectively worse now than they were before. We are already exiting the golden age of emulation.

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      Switch emulation is not going anywhere, and will likely continue to be built off the foundations laid by Yuzu.

      The biggest takeaway from this is I imagine Nintendo had the devs dead to rights on promoting piracy directly, rather than focusing on only communicating how to play legitimate back-ups only.

      So going forward any smart dev-team would make sure to wait for a game to launch before producing an updated version to support it, as well as being vigilant that all communication through official channels avoids any discussion that enables piracy or directly links to a secondary source that does so.

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    Look forward to them using the code in their new product and not giving two shits about the oss license. Again.

    Anyone know what nostalgia resale era they’re into? N64 I would guess… gotta make sure everything sells for $70 or more for all time.

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      Nintendo is past their era of selling the same games to you over and over. Now their old games are subscription based, so you can never stop paying them and never own your childhood classics.

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    Nintendo being Nintendo. They’ve killed websites, device vendors, projects and more. Otherwise Liksang and Bung would still be around. They take the same destroyer of worlds tactic to any meetings. Crush the opposition, no survivors.

    This time I think the internet may surprise them, unless they just get a blanket order on anyone hosting copies of the code or related materiels.

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    (Obv. not legal advice) Step 1: Create non profit for “supporting emulation” Step 2: Use non profit to support devs by helping them create llc’s for their emulators (cause no liability on the persons) Step 4: Whenever nintendo sues (and maybe wins), help them regroup under a new llc Step 5: whatch them play whack-a-mole

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    Fuck you Nintendo you absolute cunts. Won’t ever get another penny from me