• grte
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    9 months ago

    This is a primary, not the general. If now is not the time to make moves to apply pressure, then when? If there’s never a good time, then nevermind Trump, your democracy is already dead.

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      9 months ago

      If you want proof that this is exactly the time to put pressure, look at the difference in Biden’s message from a week ago and now.

      Wait for another state primary with higher amount of Uncommitted votes and Biden might say he will consider to stop sending weapons.

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      9 months ago

      Yeah I agree with you completely. This is me mocking the same thing you are! Probably wasn’t clear.

      I should have put “DNC:” or something above it

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        9 months ago

        Coming back to it now, I see where you were coming from. That’s my bad, sorry.

    • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.social
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      9 months ago

      The democracy is already dead.

      I just had this fight with some folks. My point was that denying protest in primaries denies all voice to dissent. Their point was that dissent in the primaries weakens the candidate in the general. I believe that both points are right, and that therefore our democracy is dead.

      Unless we’re able to (a) eliminate the electoral college, and (b) institute a different voting tool e.g. ranked choice, then we are fucked.

      E.g. ranked choice, I’m not saying only ranked choice. It could be approval voting for all I care, as long as if isn’t first-past-the-post, it would be an improvement.

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        A primary challenge strengthens the successful candidate in the general. Our democracy is deeply flawed, but it always has been. It’s not worse than in the past when only a tiny fraction of the population was allowed to vote. This is the first time in history that we’re seeing serious national discussion of ranked voting, and some states and localities have implemented it.

        Approval voting is actually worse than first past the post, in my opinion. We need ranked choice, IRV or STV as appropriate.