To the developer working on SimpleX,
Why are you still using Microsoft Github ? (and by extend Reddit ! )
- https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/do-githubs-updated-terms-of-service-conflict-with-copyleft
- https://www.jessesquires.com/blog/2022/04/19/github-suspending-russian-accounts/
- https://bitsvsbytes.com/blog/move-github-gitlab/
- https://www.reddit.com/r/github/comments/8p27ud/why_are_developers_moving_their_code_from_github/
- https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/22
I had myself a question for the maintainers. I was planning to use the discussions and to do so, create an account :'( But it seem that Microsoft really doesn’t like Tor:
Cheers.
I think the developers of privacy-respecting apps use big evil platforms to tell more people about their product. I don’t think any of us would be here if we didn’t see privacy content on YouTube, Reddit or another platform like that. Github is not great though. I mean, you can use it for promotion if you really want to but ehh that’s kinda weird. Maybe it wasn’t that bad when the project started and now it’s hard to move it to something else idk
Which system do you recommend over GitHub?
My buddies all use GitHub and so when I started coding, that’s naturally where I went, but as my horizons expand, I’m beginning to realize moving somewhere else is probably the play.
I know if gitea or codeberg
I’m not a programmer now so unfortunately I can’t recommend anything
I hate that communities will pillory the people genuinely trying to improve things by indicting them for not being perfect.
Could they do something more inclusive? Yes
Does it diminish the good work they are doing? No
pro: for a huge number of people, being on github makes it easier to contribute
con: for another (almost certainly smaller) group of people, it makes it more difficult and potentially prevents them from contributing
it seems to me that the best course of action for many projects is to be on github but to also be elsewhere, and to explicitly accept issues and PRs in multiple places. it’s a mess, but it’s better than either being on github or not.
fwiw, I use github in some contexts, but, because it is a giant hassle to make a new account anonymously these days, I haven’t yet made one for this identity… so I sometimes irritate the lemmy devs by sending them bug reports on matrix instead of opening an issue :(
I had myself a question for the maintainers. I was planning to use the discussions and to do so, create an account :'( But it seem that Microsoft really doesn’t like Tor:
Once you have signed up with Github, and enable 2FA, it will be fine with Tor browser. No more nagging or errors.
But you give them the metadata during the registration so it doesn’t really make sense to use Tor after that
Have you tried a signup via a VPS provider or thought about going to your local library or some bar to use the public WiFi there with an obscure browser running in a VM that you will delete later ? It is years ago that I signed up with Github so I could press star or follow some issues of projects. I thought it was nice to find out that after enabling 2FA it was worry free using it with Tor browser.
Yea I forgot about public WiFi + protected OS trick. That should help quite a bit. But the other issues with GitHub (censorship etc) will still be there unfortunately
The Reddit question was asked in Reddit and they discussed it there in case you want their point https://www.reddit.com/r/SimpleXChat/comments/1agzg7f/not_a_big_fan_of_reddit_any_matrix_room/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Social outreach.
It is better that most of you deluded FOSS evangelists learn the concept of what I call
Privacy vs Freedom of (Internet) Navigation
This precisely explains why FOSS agenda never went mainstream, and corporate fascist software ideology managed to suppress or extinguish it for so long.
The concept of bad UX FOSS devs is critical but secondary to this.
Github is popular and is trusted in the sense that it will be unlikely to go anywhere. Some of the alternatives are not terribly popular and have the potential to run out of money.
