• Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    Tell me which things I’m specifically saying that you think are wrong.

    Show me which the sources you believe are correct.

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      4 months ago

      “You keep claiming russia is saying what it isnt saying, and you are just accepting what Ukraine is saying as the truth.”

      Please see wiki numbers and I am guessing they have what you want.

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        4 months ago

        Are you specifically referring to mainstream Wikipedia?

        Because they corroborate my numbers as of 2024.

        Most estimates are at 30000 plus casualties for Ukrainian forces and 300,000 to 400,000 plus casualties for Russian forces.

        10 to 13 Russian soldiers dead or wounded for every Ukrainian.

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            4 months ago

            Okay, well that is your source.

            So if you want different numbers then the numbers everybody else agrees on, you’re going to have to provide a different source.

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              4 months ago

              They dont agree on those number… Literally if you looked at the wiki you would see that those are not the numbers the US government even uses.

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                4 months ago

                So we’ll ignore all the other sources, any other websites, and all of the other countries, and just look at the US estimated deaths on a Wikipedia page you are not providing but are vaguely referencing:

                NA

                That site doesn’t have that information yet. Stunning statistics, thanks for wasting that time.

                Here’s the proof of that website not having the Russian death count you are referring to:

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                  4 months ago

                  Yeah and as you can see all the numbers are less except Ukraine government. Why do you think people agree with the 400k number or the 30 k number?

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                    4 months ago

                    Okay, so let’s back up a moment and center here.

                    You denied the same numbers you have provided as your sources.

                    Then you said as proof that the US number of Russian deaths you think are correct are incorrect, I should check your source, Wikipedia, which has no US-estimated numbers of deaths. And finally you want to know why I agree with the 300k 30k numbers.

                    All casualty reports, including those from Russia, and the Wikipedia page you keep referencing, agrer that there have been hundreds of thousands of casualties in the Russian side, and far fewer casualties on the Ukrainian side.

                    These numbers make perfect sense since Ukraine has so much global support, advanced weapons and funding while Russia does not.

                    These numbers make sense because Russia’s military predictions had their victory occurring at one week or less, and they’ve taken over two years so far, demonstrating how weak their military is.

                    These numbers make sense because every credible source agrees on the numbers of over 300000 casualties.

                    Including your sources.