Tel Aviv has stepped up indiscriminate attacks against displaced Palestinians in northern Gaza due to the army’s failure to ‘dismantle’ Hamas

      • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
        146·
        10 months ago

        That genocide isn’t the only genocide the US has been part of, either as a direct genocidier or indirectly by supporting the genocidal regime.

        No one is gonna take this crown from the US!

    • Alsephina@lemmy.mlEnglish
      333·
      10 months ago

      They try to not be open about it though, at least to its own population, unlike “israel”.

      It’s basically a US colony in Palestine though so ig it’s a moot point.

      • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
        244·
        10 months ago

        No, not really. There’s a lot of whitewashing of US history, especially in textbooks. If you ask the average American they wouldn’t even call anything the US did “genocide.”

        I recommend reading Lies My Teacher Told Me.

        • Alsephina@lemmy.mlEnglish
          221·
          10 months ago

          There’s a lot of whitewashing of US history, especially in textbooks. If you ask the average American they wouldn’t even call anything the US did “genocide.”

          That’s what I mean. The US is built on genocide and colonization just like “israel”, but they try to not be open about it.

          • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
            182·
            10 months ago

            Oh no that’s new. Back when the genocide was in a more active phase and there were “Indian Wars” they were very explicit about it.

            But today, you’re right, they just teach a few key atrocities and handwave the other hundred million. I must have misread lol

            I think that’s just the different stages of settler-colonial development.

          • Tinidril@midwest.socialEnglish
            21·
            10 months ago

            Go back far enough and everyone is where they are because their ancestors killed whomever was there first. Not that it justifies anything, but it’s genocides all the way down. Even native Americans wiped out a prior civilization if you go back far enough.

          • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
            165·
            10 months ago

            Do you… Think that list is authoritative?

            The population of Indigenous Americans is estimated to have decreased from approximately 145 million to around 10 million.

            135 million.

            Not all of that was the US, the old empires of France and Spain and England played a huge role, but since it’s founding the US has killed millions along with Canada and Mexico. Disease played a large role, but much of that was deliberately spread which muddies the estimates.

            And that’s just one of the genocides the US was involved in. There have been many others.

            • teejay@lemmy.worldEnglish
              65·
              10 months ago

              Do you… Think that list is authoritative?

              Do you… want to provide more authoritative sources? Or even just start with one? So far you’ve cited zero.

              Remember, your original assertion was “the US is still the king of genocide.” Assuming your vague phrase of “king of genocide” means total number of people killed, then show an authoritative source that proves it, then we can talk.

            • ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee
              28·
              10 months ago

              Where is your list, or sources? Or should we just believe queermunist who I’m guessing is more sympathetic to communist nations?

                • ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee
                  21·
                  10 months ago

                  No context? Your source that you posted even had Spain as killing millions of native Americans. For the USA itself - the trail of tears was 4,000-10,000. Most deaths were through disease.

                  So how again is the USA the most genocidal country on this planet? More than the holocaust? More than the Armenian genocide? The Killing Fields (Khmer rouge), Rwanda where 800,000 were killed in 100 days?

                  You are talking out of your ass, queermunist.

                  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
                    22·
                    10 months ago

                    The Trail of Tears was one event among many others. The American Indian wars and Manifest Destiny saw the Native population decline from 600,000 to 250,000.

                    But the US doesn’t get to pretend it doesn’t inherit the genocide it was founded on! Killings that happened before 1776 were carried out by prominent colonial generals like George Washington before the Founding, and their forefathers like John Washington who the Iroquois named “devourer of villages”.

                    Let’s not forget the intentional hunting of buffalo to extinction in the wild by the US army, intended to starve the plains Natives to death or force them to flee. The US also had boarding schools like Canada, where they’d kidnap native children and brainwash them to be good little Christians that can’t even speak their native languages.

                    The fact that you think the genocide was limited to a single event like the Trail of Tears is disturbing.

          • Alsephina@lemmy.mlEnglish
            61·
            10 months ago

            Leave that hurr durr US is big bad amirite shit on reddit.

            I think you misspelled China. Reddit being completely filled with imperial core propaganda is one of the main reasons a lot of us came to Lemmy.