Was just talking at dinner with family, and it seems a logical action to ban circumcision, as in most cases, doesn’t have consent, and is a major (genitals are important) body modification. Can we ban it at the state level? Just a thought.

  • Dr. Moose@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    9 months ago

    Proving my point here tbh

    Unconsensual body modification is mutilation. Wouldn’t you be offended if your parents performed any other permanent irreversible body modification? Clip your toes or ears?

    No one is trying to shame you or say that cut dicks are bad but it’s extremely unethical to do that to babies. Just think about how messed up that is.

        • CileTheSane
          3·
          9 months ago

          You don’t have to be a medical expert to have an opinion on the topic of cutting bits off people.

          You probably should be a medical expert if you’re going to insist that:

          people are somehow tricking themselves into being ok with it

            • CileTheSane
              3·
              9 months ago

              I have not.

              Op said:

              people are somehow tricking themselves into being ok with it

              Op was asked if they were a medical expert. You jumped in saying OP doesn’t have to be a medical expert to have an opinion. I jumped in saying OP should be a medical expert in order to insist on a medical opinion.

    • CileTheSane
      3·
      9 months ago

      Wouldn’t you be offended if your parents performed any other permanent irreversible body modification? Clip your toes or ears?

      I couldn’t possibly tell you because that’s not a thing that happens. “Oh, you’re not bothered by this thing that happened to you? What if it was a different thing?” Is not a compelling argument.

      To be clear, I am in no way arguing for circumcision. What I am saying is don’t say you’re fighting on my behalf over something I’m not bothered by. Some armchair “expert” insisting I am covering up trauma I don’t have is just going to cause me to think the entire movement is a bunch of performative assholes who don’t care to actually listen to people who were directly impacted by the thing they are talking about. That is the definition of virtue signaling: You don’t actually care about what the people it actually happened to have to say, you need to make sure everyone sees that “you know better” and you’re doing this for them.

      it’s extremely unethical to do that to babies

      Now that, is a good argument. Stick with that. Babies are unable to speak for themselves and need people to advocate for them. I don’t need someone else to speak for me, I am fully capable of doing that myself.