Well, none of that matters anyways when China now emits almost twice as much CO2 as the US and is basically single-handedly not just absorbing all the rest of the world’s reduction efforts, but increasing the global output enormously.
While that’s efficient by comparison, the atmosphere doesn’t really give us a break for per-capita adjustments. Yes, the US is more irresponsible per capita and they need to fix that. However China gets more bang-for-the-buck in per-capita improvements when it comes to the actual environmental impact.
Depends on whether we are talking about where to optimize for best impact, or whether we are talking about fairness of blame.
the data you shared only shows half the picture. if you take into account cumulative emissions, the US isn’t doing any good. it’s responsible fit a quarter of emissions to date.
Past emissions are just assigning blame, future emissions are all that matters. USA emissions have peaked, China is growing exponentially. That’s a problem.
That’s cumulative as in “from the beginning of time” (as far as we have record allowing us to estimate). It merely proves that the US has had a head start in all this because they industrialized at a large scale far earlier than China. But as you can see, China’s curve is literally steeper than anyone else’s, having already almost caught up to the EU in a mere 50 years.
Well, none of that matters anyways when China now emits almost twice as much CO2 as the US and is basically single-handedly not just absorbing all the rest of the world’s reduction efforts, but increasing the global output enormously.
Double the emissions for 4 times the people? Damn that’s pretty efficient in comparison.
While that’s efficient by comparison, the atmosphere doesn’t really give us a break for per-capita adjustments. Yes, the US is more irresponsible per capita and they need to fix that. However China gets more bang-for-the-buck in per-capita improvements when it comes to the actual environmental impact.
Depends on whether we are talking about where to optimize for best impact, or whether we are talking about fairness of blame.
the data you shared only shows half the picture. if you take into account cumulative emissions, the US isn’t doing any good. it’s responsible fit a quarter of emissions to date.
source: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-co-emissions
Past emissions are just assigning blame, future emissions are all that matters. USA emissions have peaked, China is growing exponentially. That’s a problem.
Blame matters, when the world’s leading economy at the time did fuck all to remedy the situation.
I think you mean deliberately sabotaged attempts at climate talks for decades.
the US(and Europe) emitted tons for centuries and became developed. and now when others want to do the same, the US goes bonkers.
and don’t talk about alternatives, since the developed world can’t even give 100 billion dollars to developing nations they promised years(in 2009) ago.
That’s cumulative as in “from the beginning of time” (as far as we have record allowing us to estimate). It merely proves that the US has had a head start in all this because they industrialized at a large scale far earlier than China. But as you can see, China’s curve is literally steeper than anyone else’s, having already almost caught up to the EU in a mere 50 years.