I see where you are trying to get with that argumentation based on causality: justification. Thus, back to good/bad.
Still, I disagree on your reasoning for the condemn of ww2 atrocities. From the very beginning german nationalists had a big point against jew ownership and business monopoly. It’s not for nothing that a majority democratically elected the to-be dictator Hitler. It’s the way Nazi party implemented the ‘fix’ and the indifference of the rest of the germans that made up the genocide.
Similarly you repeatedly dismiss a key historical event in the palestinian conflict beginning. The brittish gave palestinian land to jews. Land which housed the majority of the palestinians at the day. How can you expect that to work in any case? Even if Hamas didn’t exist palestinians would have the right to reclaim own land and conflict would be unevitable.
Let’s forget the good/bad reasoning and face the issue from it’s root, which is a mere territorial dispute.
From the very beginning german nationalists had a big point against jew ownership and business monopoly. It’s not for nothing that a majority democratically elected the to-be dictator Hitler. It’s the way Nazi party implemented the ‘fix’ and the indifference of the rest of the germans that made up the genocide.
im not really sure what the point here is other than stating basic facts, so i’ll leave it there.
Similarly you repeatedly dismiss a key historical event in the palestinian conflict beginning. The brittish gave palestinian land to jews. Land which housed the majority of the palestinians at the day. How can you expect that to work in any case? Even if Hamas didn’t exist palestinians would have the right to reclaim own land and conflict would be unevitable.
I haven’t done that a single time, please give me an example of one instance where i dismissed the balfour declaration. (as far as i am concerned you are literally pulling this out of your ass) But since you don’t seem to like doing history correctly, now is the point that would be the most optimal to mention that israel/palestine goes all the way back to biblical roots. It’s referred to as both israel and palestine. That’s kind of where the british got the idea from. And that’s kind of sort of why palestine even existed. If you want my opinion on it, i think they were likely the same land, and through thousands of years of humanity, translation, and just general shenanigans. It changed over time. There is no correct answer as to who is the original owner of that land. Unless you’re willing to take religious doctrine at its word, or completely ignore it i suppose, you are given a wealth of options in that regard.
Let’s forget the good/bad reasoning and face the issue from it’s root, which is a mere territorial dispute.
whats with the good/bad shit? I keep bringing up nuanced points, to which you seem to be either confused about, or misunderstanding. And im not sure which. Unless you’re referring to my opinions on people dying, in which case that’s irrelevant. I have not once, at any point throughout this thread, said that either israel, or palestine are the good/bad guys here, which is what my original point was.
Although i suppose you might be trying to engage in satire here, which would be rather amusing. Though ineffectual.
I see where you are trying to get with that argumentation based on causality: justification. Thus, back to good/bad.
Still, I disagree on your reasoning for the condemn of ww2 atrocities. From the very beginning german nationalists had a big point against jew ownership and business monopoly. It’s not for nothing that a majority democratically elected the to-be dictator Hitler. It’s the way Nazi party implemented the ‘fix’ and the indifference of the rest of the germans that made up the genocide.
Similarly you repeatedly dismiss a key historical event in the palestinian conflict beginning. The brittish gave palestinian land to jews. Land which housed the majority of the palestinians at the day. How can you expect that to work in any case? Even if Hamas didn’t exist palestinians would have the right to reclaim own land and conflict would be unevitable.
Let’s forget the good/bad reasoning and face the issue from it’s root, which is a mere territorial dispute.
im not really sure what the point here is other than stating basic facts, so i’ll leave it there.
I haven’t done that a single time, please give me an example of one instance where i dismissed the balfour declaration. (as far as i am concerned you are literally pulling this out of your ass) But since you don’t seem to like doing history correctly, now is the point that would be the most optimal to mention that israel/palestine goes all the way back to biblical roots. It’s referred to as both israel and palestine. That’s kind of where the british got the idea from. And that’s kind of sort of why palestine even existed. If you want my opinion on it, i think they were likely the same land, and through thousands of years of humanity, translation, and just general shenanigans. It changed over time. There is no correct answer as to who is the original owner of that land. Unless you’re willing to take religious doctrine at its word, or completely ignore it i suppose, you are given a wealth of options in that regard.
whats with the good/bad shit? I keep bringing up nuanced points, to which you seem to be either confused about, or misunderstanding. And im not sure which. Unless you’re referring to my opinions on people dying, in which case that’s irrelevant. I have not once, at any point throughout this thread, said that either israel, or palestine are the good/bad guys here, which is what my original point was.
Although i suppose you might be trying to engage in satire here, which would be rather amusing. Though ineffectual.
I was really enjoying this debate, which enriched me too until you lost ur cool. Sad.
Peace.
alright then, you’ll have to forgive me for losing my cool then.
You only lied about something i said. No big deal.