A district judge in Wisconsin has sided with an 11-year-old trans girl over her use of the girls’ toilets and temporarily blocked school officials from preventing her access.

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    I don’t see any detriment to giving trans people their own space where they can be comfortable and let everyone else be comfortable too

    I am confident you don’t realize the full implications of what you’re saying, so please don’t take this as an attack, but would you also support “black only” restrooms for this exact same reason? If not, why not?

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        Why do either matter in the bathroom? How does the sex of someone else change how you pee or poop?

        There are already laws in place to prevent people from harassing others in the bathroom, regardless of sex. I just don’t understand. There are SO many contradictions in the belief that banning trans people from the bathroom of their choosing is even worth discussion.

        Are you worried about girls and women being uncomfortable in the bathroom around someone who looks like a guy? Ok, so if a ban is in place, they now have to share the bathroom with trans men who look a hell of a lot more like a guy than a trans woman.

        Is it about preventing people who may be attracted to others from sharing space in the bathroom? First, gross, it’s a bathroom; only pervs go looking for any kind of sexual gratification there (and again, there’s already laws that cover this). Second, gay people exist, so it’s kind of a moot point to ban trans people.

        It just seems like any concern used to justify a trans bathroom ban would still exist even if a ban was in place. I mean, unless of course the only concern is “trans people have too many rights in our society” in which case, kindly, fuck right off.

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          and it’s worth mentioning that there is no genital check before entering a bathroom. An “anti-trans bathroom” law would likely also get wielded against masculine women and effeminate men who are not transgender.

          None of it makes any sense when you take 30 seconds to consider it.

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            The gender non conforming cis people who also face assault and harassment from transphobes are intended casualties.

            A huge part of the transphobic movement is extremely misogynistic, and believe that deviating from gender roles should be punished and discouraged.

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            get wielded against masculine women and effeminate men

            Which has already happened at least twice that I’ve seen reports of. Though I suspect that’s the point.

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          Yeah, laws already cover all the bases. Thats why I think the entire idea of not letting trans people use their bathroom of choice is derogatory.

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        1 year ago

        Racism and transphobia are 2 completely comparable things.

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        it still feels weird when he walks into the bathroom with me

        Are they? What if someone still feels weird when a Black person walks into the bathroom with them? Should we take that person’s feeling into account and simply give Black people their own space where they can be comfortable and let everyone else be comfortable too?

        If no: why not?

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        Elaborate? In what way are they so different that they wouldn’t also apply for the comment I quoted?