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Didn’t know where else to post this, but it’s pretty emblematic of how deeply corrupt our society is. Let me know if you think there’s a better community to post this in.
Back to the subject, the Streisand Effect is in force (taken down video reuploaded). This is me doing my small part in that.
Except whistle-blowers have specific protections already, so that doesn’t really apply.
To say the least!
I do! Holding politicians accountable like everyone else. THAT’S the balance.
The bar for proving defamation is already high enough that there’s no risk of accidentally chilling honest political speech.
If you honestly believe it’s true, it can’t be defamation. Politicians would only get in trouble for wilfully false defamatory statements, which I’m 100% in favor of happening much more.
Not in Australia, the bar for defo is stupidly low. The defendant basically has to prove their innocence. The law is fucked and the new “public interest” defence failed its first test in court. Defamation law is abused by the rich and powerful to suppress free speech and silence critics. Even if you can successfully prove substantial truth or genuinely held opinion you’ll still be ruined by all the legal costs.
Yeah Aussie defo law is basically a “are you wealthy?” test.
We don’t talk about class much here but it’s a super classist society. My dad for example, from a line of Irish transported, could only get out of generations of poverty because Whitlam made uni free. He ended up planning some pretty important national infrastructure (so blame him haha) that I’d say the state got a pretty good deal on given the price of a degree. My mum is a Polish immigrant and her parents, who were an agricultural scientist who refused to join the party in occupied Poland and an office admin worker (USSR leading the world on women working) were treated like fucking dirt and imbeciles because they had a strong accent and strange grammar.
If you look at the last names of people in power it’s heavily slanted English. Legacy from the colony days. We had this really brief moment of good fortune and higher class mobility due to fear of communism driving social reform and since then further backsliding. I mean look at all the jobs for the boys from private schools etc and what families get admission.
Shit’s fucked, but we pretend like it’s all good mate and that mythical occa Anzac spirit of going hard hand in hand is all around us. Meanwhile pollies are untouchable, landlords buy up everything, and access to help and opportunity crumbles for everyone who earns less than 300k a household.
Well in Australia whistle blowers don’t haha. Authoritarian shithole lacking town squares to prevent assembly that we are.
But it’s not just for pollies, like if I’m before Parliament presenting something or say making a submission in favour of legalising weed or whatever and I admit to a crime I’m also protected. In theory Parliament should always have the best information to make decisions and people there can’t present info fearlessly if they can be arrested mid speech (or when they walk out the door).
It’s a reaction to some of the horrible stuff authoritarians used in the past so I get why. It doesn’t tend to be used that way, and that’s a problem of implementation and culture (and that Westminster representative democracy isn’t really very Democratic at all). So we do have the same treatment as pollies but not the same resources, it’s a bridges and rich and poor thing and I think that reflects problems in our legal system.
Tweeking defamation for public figures is probably my preferred solution. Like I don’t think rich powerful people with platforms should be able to sue random twitter users for getting too fired up in their expression of frustration. Or that stuff like the Jordies situation can happen at all is nonsense. If I show up in Parliament and say “I to sodomy, legalise it I’m normal” (btw hand jobs and vibrators are sodomy, we’re all sodomites :p) and someone says “naeva admits to being sodomite” in the paper the next day, and can make a convincing case that publicising my words is in the public interest well then fair cop I say.
Well that fucking sucks! Someone should probably get on that!
Good point, hadn’t thought about that. Should be immunity for “civilians” coming before Parliament, then, but still not for the politicians themselves. That would probably work…