Thousands took to the streets across Israel Saturday night to call for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s ouster and new elections, in demonstrations spanning from Tel Aviv and Jerusalem to Haifa and Caesarea in the north and Be’er Sheva in the south.
At a demonstration in front of the President’s Residence in Jerusalem, Yosef Angel, bereaved father and grandfather of 17-year-old Ofir Angel, who was freed from Hamas captivity in Gaza, said “You stand at the head, and are responsible for the October 7 holocaust. You are trying to escape responsibility and look for someone else to blame, shame on you.”
Obviously plenty of people on social media have been shitting on Biden for a while now, perhaps understandably.
But this is why he has to play a delicate and balanced role. He obviously hates Netenyahu and dislikes Israel’s government, but he can’t push too hard, because it would only help Netenyahu cling on to power a while longer. For example:
So although he initially publicly backed Israel 100%, the reason he’s now being relatively muted in his criticism of their government, is almost certainly because he wants Netenyahu gone or wants Netenyahu to be forced to create a new coalition with more moderate parties. You know, get rid of those smug thunder cunts Ben-Gvir and Smotrich.
Meanwhile, the US is clearly pushing the two state solution hard behind the scenes. Don’t think it’s an accident that little America’s David Cameron said the UK might recognise Palestine and apparently the US is considering it too, all while doing an intensive tour of the middle-east and negotiating with Israel’s neighbours for normalisation.
This is fantasy, he’s been vocal of his support for decades and continues to be. He might be quieter but you’re giving him a lot of benefit here that has no basis
I’ve provided further sources here:
https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/809321/-/comment/4963666
And another user has provided sources here:
https://lemmy.ca/comment/6965014
Please note that Biden not liking Netenyahu or his government, is different to Biden being supportive of the current war cabinet or Israel itself.
There are legitimate reasons to be critical of the US stance on that.
Is it obvious he hates them? Hasn’t he been vocally very supportive up until basically election season started? Even for several months while the IDF had been bombing civilians and killing non-combatants indiscriminately he did little more than tell Bibo that he had to be a bit more discrete about his mass-murder while giving them the means to do so.
Words are just that, words. His actions say he supports Israel 100%.
You’re wrong. Biden fucking hates the guy (and his government). Democrats do too. Why would they like him? Netanyahu has tied Israel extremely closely and nearly solely to the Republican party. He basically campaigned for Trump. After Biden criticized Israeli settlements in the West Bank, Netanyahu timed the announcement of new settlements to Biden’s arrival in Israel just to humiliate him. He did the same thing just hours before his inauguration.
They fought publicly last year with Biden saying that Israel “cannot continue down this road” (about judicial overhaul) with an Israeli diplomat saying that "As long as he is Israel’s prime minister, things are likely to deteriorate.” There have been numerous reports that they have barely spoken and that things have been tense when they have. Biden is reported to have ended that conversation with the never-affectionate “this conversation is over.”
They have like 15 years of bad blood between them, personally and politically.
I don’t think ppl care too much about whether or not they’re best pals. It’s the fact Biden is selling them weapons and trying to get congress to give them 14 billion in aid
OP’s comment was about Biden trying to undermine and weaken Netanyahu because he hates him.
This is what I replied to:
He wasn’t providing vocal weapons, was he? Shipments of military-grade fuck-words, perhaps?
Care about whatever you want but the fact that there’s decades of evidence that they despise each other seems relevant.
Here’s an article from before the Hamas attacks:
And another one:
And here’s another relevant article:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/12/biden-netanyahu-geopolitics-israel-hamas-war/676357/
Proper nasty politics, keep your enemies closer, and backstabbing basically.
People think Biden’s this old incompetent coot, but there’s a reason he’s been around for decades. He’s a piece of work, for better or for worse, and knows how the game is played.
Here’s an archive link to that Atlantic piece, which is a really interesting read.
Democrats actions and words contradict this is not hard to understand.
Republicans are at least consistent in their racism.
Have you ever considered that you don’t know that much, which is why you think what the democrats are doing is easy to understand and simple, and seem to think Israel, Netenyahu and his government are all the same thing?
Have you ever considered that Biden is the top recipient of israeli foreign money?
It’s hillarious that anyone would suggest that Biden is doing anything to stop Netanyahu.
Biden is groveling through the dirt throwing away the west’s entire moral credibility trying to give him as many weapon and as much money as he possibly can.
Every “boundary” set by Genocide Joe has been broken by Netanyahu twice over and he doesn’t even dare to say that israel is committing war crimes.
Genocide Joe fully endorses the current Israeli policy.
I admire your confidence.
Pro-Israel Recipients 2020:
Top recipients:
1 Biden, Joe (D) President $3,753,244
2 Perdue, David (R-GA) Senate $1,053,098
3 Trump, Donald ® President $894,032
Israel likes Biden four times as much as Trump.
No one forced him to circumvent congress twice to support Netanyahu’s genocide. No one was clamoring for it, and no one would have blamed him if he hadn’t.
“Trust us, we’re totally doing what you want, silently and invisibly, behind the scenes”