Bolstered by a momentous ICJ ruling, Palestinians, including Americans, gave three hours of testimony against the Biden administration.

Lawyers involved with the lawsuit playing out in federal court said that the ICJ ruling bolsters their case. Their lawsuit argues that Biden, Blinken, and Austin are liable under U.S. law for failing to uphold their obligation to prevent genocide in Gaza.

Barry Trachtenberg, a professor of Jewish history and author of two books about the Holocaust, testified as an expert witness in the case – over repeated objections from Justice Department attorneys. When he filed his declaration in the case in November, he said, some 11,000 Palestinians had been killed. Today, that number is far greater.

“Everything that we feared and more is unfolding,” he said, noting that often, legal actions about genocide happen long after the fact. “What makes this situation so unique is that we’re watching the genocide unfold as we speak. And we’re in this incredibly unique position where we can actually intervene to stop it using the mechanisms of international law that are available to us.”

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    Working so hard to get qult45. Bet they’ll refuse all responsibility should they succeed.

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      You can’t defend genocide.

      So you pretend opposition to genocide is support for Trump.

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      You can abhor trump will simultaneously thinking that there’s genocide happening that Biden is supporting. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.

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        “You can damage Biden while simultaneously helping Trump.” FTFY
        Biden in no way supports it, has used what pull he’s got to try and stop it, got the ceasefire that did happen, and is continuing to call for and attempting to bring about a solution to the issue. So, yes, they are mutually exclusive. You are hurting the chances of anything beneficial happening while simultaneously increasing the chances of making things worse.

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          “Biden in no way supports it”

          This is a flat out lie and you should be ashamed of yourself for typing it. If there is ONE THING Biden has made ABSOLUTELY CLEAR since October, it’s that he will protect Israel with any means necessary.

          It’s no wonder people don’t take liberals like you seriously, you’re a fucking brain dead idiot.

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            This is a flat out lie and you should be ashamed of yourself for typing it.

            People who support genocide for its own sake aren’t known to balk at dishonesty.

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            Stamp your feet all you like but all evidence is to the contrary. You are simply mad Biden can’t wave a magic wand and make the slaughter stop.

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              The evidence that he’s for genocide: He sells weapons for the purpose when he doesn’t have to.

              The evidence he’s against it: “Trust us, guys. He’s totally working behind the scenes!”

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              Are you kidding me? He can end it with a phone call to Bibi. In fact he can order his just-offshore aircraft carriers to enforce a no fly zone over Gaza.

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                Proven false and were he stupid enough to listen to your idiocy it would assure his loss in Nov.

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          Biden didn’t have to circumvent Congress to sell them weapons for the genocide you support.

          No one was clamoring for him to do that, and no one would have blamed him if he didn’t.

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          Mother fucking RONALD FUCKING REAGAN did more to reign in Israel than Biden has. He absolutely supports it, or he would have done more. Sending them weapons while saying, “be careful” isn’t using any pull to try to stop it. The Israelis are going on tv and saying Biden is dumb and they’re using him, and he still fucking sends them weapons.

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            The political situation is in no way similar to what Ronnie “where’s my brain?” Raygun. As well as your claims being pure bullshit, the options available to Biden are all losing bullshit. If he cuts support to Israel he gets slaughtered in the media and loses many times more Votes than could possibly be gained by adhering to the idiocy you are demanding.

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      Yep! You’re absolutely right! They should just buckle up and accept their their genocide as a necessary loss!

      This election is making me hate l*berals almost as much as the GOP, they’re getting to be the same kind of heartless, thoughtless, rabid pieces of shit as conservatives. Literal trump rally tier shit, you fuckers literally beg for four more years of genocide and think anyone but yourself and God Emperor Dark Brandon are losing him those votes? Go fuck yourselves, you’re all reactionary murder-happy assholes

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        Zero votes from the tankie demographic last election. Zero votes from the tankie demograaphic in this election. Net loss of votes: zero.

        But somehow people that are too edgy to ever participate in democracy think that threatening to not vote will matter to anyone.

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          I love how “tankie” now just means “someone who doesn’t love genocide for its own sake.”

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            Hamas a fascist organization where the political leadership are billionaires living in Qatar. The Gaza local leadership is hiding in underground bunkers while the population is on the surface at the mercy of an army they claim to be committing genocide.

            The villages that Hamas went in and massacred on October 7 were Kibbutzes, which are basically the socialist ideal communes.

            So you’re a socialist that looks the other way about the a genocide of people living in peaceful socialist communes. But get insanely emotional when there’s a war against the perpetrators of that genocide to the point where you’re carrying water for a genocidal fascist regime, repeating their false equivalency “both sides” narratives in an attempt to give them cover for the genocide they committed. Ya know the whole fascist thing of accusing the other side of the crimes they’re guilty of?

            So you’re a “socialist” that supports fascists that murder of people living in communes. ie.Tankie.

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              I don’t support Hamas.

              Opposition to Natanyahu’s genocide isn’t support for Hamas.

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              a kibbutz on occupied land is not idealized socialism at all. if you need to conscript children to enforce your occupation, you are not doing leftism.

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                The children were born there. They weren’t “conscripted”. They were living in the place they were born. They were murdered for because for living in the place they were born and being of an ethnicity that was hated by some evil people.

                When you think people don’t have a right to live in the place they were born because of their ethnicity, you aren’t doing leftism.

                When you think in terms of a restoring maps to have the ethnic makeup they’ve had in the past, you aren’t doing leftism.

                That’s the kind of thing fascists are all about. River to the Sea = Blood and Soil.

                Fascism is just about emotional manipulation. Socialists think they’re immune to this kind of manipulation. but socialists have a weakness about Jews. That old Wealthy Capitalist Jew stereotype, you know what I’m talking about? That emotional association between Jews and Wealth and Capitalism makes socialists predisposed to disliking Jews and open to narratives about the Jews being the enemy. Socialists have been convinced to join antisemitic fascist movements in the past, right?

                You feel that a fascist can’t manipulate you because you’re a socialist, but unfortunately no one is immune to emotional manipulation. Ideology is only a social construct. It’s not a real thing. You’re not really at the opposite end of a spectrum from a fascist. That’s just made up thing used as a shorthand to describe moderate politics in a democracy. Extremists don’t conform to a spectrum. They will say and do anything to get power. They won’t avoid you because you say you’re a socialist. They will even call themselves socialist if that gains them power. When power is the goal, ideology, and political spectrums, left / right, none of that matters. The only thing that matters to a fascist is using emotional manipulation to get control over you.

                The Jews aren’t your enemies, try to be a little more wary of the people that try to convince you they are.

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        Always with things no one remotely posted. Is the issue you’ve no clue about reality and thus can’t defend your position so must make up shit to pretend?

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          If you’re not trying to say Palestinians and allies should stop advocating against their own genocide for biden’s sake than what the heck are you trying to say? What else could bring you to say that petitioning against the slaughter and expulsion of their people is “working so hard to get qult45”?

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            No one suggested anything of the sort. So again, you pretend. Sad really. And no, in no way does slagging on Biden for the crap hand he’s been dealt do anything against the slaughter but in fact the derision increases the chance that the slaughter shall be worse after Jan. 20th 2025.

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              It encourages him not to support a genocide. It’s the whole “push him left” that I thought we were supposed to do after he got elected the first time. And there’s being dealt a crap hand and there’s not saying anything publically to denounce Israel while working around Congress to give the more weapons to kill children with.

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                Nope. Biden has already spoken out against it and has worked none stop to end it, including getting the ceasefire that did happen. You are simply spreading misinformation.

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              Liberals are legit indistinguishable from magats at this point. Feigning ignorance while telling oppressed people to shut up and take it or they’ll have it even worse. Biden could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and you would start chanting FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS! You’re fascist cunts and I hope you rot in the same graves as the republicans you so desperately want to win