• WaxedWookie@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    I’ll defer to Israeli leadership on this one…

    Prime Minister Netanyahu

    They (Israel/IDF) are committed to completely eliminating this evil from the world,”

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    You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible. And we do remember.

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    I don’t call them human animals because that would be insulting to animals

    “Defence” minister Galant

    We are fighting human animals, and we are acting accordingly

    Kallner…

    Nakba to the enemy now! This day is our Pearl Harbour. We will still learn the lessons. Right now, one goal: Nakba! A Nakba that will overshadow the Nakba of 48. A Nakba in Gaza and a Nakba for anyone who dares to join!

    Atbaryan…

    erasing all of Gaza from the face of the Earth. Gaza needs to be wiped out.

    Halevi…

    goals for this victory. One, there is no more Muslim land in the land of Israel. After we make it the land of Israel, Gaza should be left as a monument, like Sodom.”

    Why did Israel fund Hamas’s successful effort to displace the secular moderates?

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      Uhh… yeah Hamas committed real genocide. You see when it’s actual genocide and not edgy teenage internet keyboard warrior “genocide” people are going to call it evil and completely destroy the evil people responsible. The evil people responsible are Hamas. This war is termed the Israel-Hamas war by the Israelis. Hamas are the evil people that have committed genocide.

      The war is termed things other than the Israel-Hamas war by propaganda channels in an attempt to characterize the war as being against the Palestinian people. But that’s not Israel doing that, it’s propaganda channels that are opposed to Israel that are doing that.

      There are members of Hamas who went into villages and massacred everyone they could find. Men, women, children, babies. Decapitated people. Played around with the severed heads like they were toys. They did these things under orders from their commanders. These specific people that did these horrific acts were referred to as “human animals”.

      The propaganda channels you’re subscribed to probably left out some details on that, didn’t they? That’s all they have to do, just don’t mention a few specifics and people will jump to the conclusion that someone was saying it about an entire ethnicity. But it’s false. Someone referred to the specific people that committed the most horrific acts imaginable as being animals. Personally I prefer to use terms like “psychopath” or on occasion “monster” to describe people capable of doing the things that were done on October 7, but it’s not all that offensive to me to call people like that “animals” since those kinds of acts are inhuman. How do you describe the people that went into villages and massacred men, women, and children? Freedom fighters?

      I don’t have time to go through all of the propaganda you’ve collected via your “internet research”. But I think it should be plain to see that you’ve been misled on a lot of things.

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        5 months ago

        You didn’t answer why Israel backed Hamas’s rise to power - it’s not like Hamas’s rhetoric has meaningfully since Israel helped them displace the secular moderates - they knew who they were backing, so why did they do it?

        Let’s cut through your nonsense with 2 basic questions:

        1. What is the definition of genocide you’re using?

        2. In what way was October 7th bad in a way Israel hasn’t been worse since?

        Israel have the means to commit a genocide (Israeli officials have even been talking about nuking them) they’ve talked about genociding Palestine for a while now, manufactured the pretext in supporting Hamas, and now they’ve begun their genocide in earnest.

        Hamas are terrorists, would love to genocide those that pushed them to power, but armed with small arms, a handful of rockets and an airforce consisting of a single paraglider, they lack the means to take down a nuclear power with F35s, backed by the US.

        Bonus points: instead of whining vaguely about what you assume is my media diet (when I did nothing but quote officials from the regime you’re defending), where am factually wrong?

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          5 months ago

          For the curious, this moron has given their definition of genocide in a separate thread. His definition would mean that dropping a nuke on Netanyahu as he sits in Tel Aviv, wiping Israel off the map wouldn’t be a genocide, while a marketing campaign to sell bottled water to African Americans would be a genocide.

          This is the kind of incoherent bullshit tying yourself in knots to deny a genocide leads you to.

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        5 months ago

        How slow of a reader are you that you can’t read 5 quotes but have time to barf out Israeli propaganda all day.

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          It disagrees with their nonsense narrative, so it doesn’t count - because… reasons - also, you’re anti-semitic.

          Go check their post history - it’s clear they’re just lying to defend a genocide, and they know it. Their definition of genocide alone is an absolute joke.