• kfet
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    11 months ago

    Not sure what you mean, the announced changes are pretty much the best thing ever to happen to the Apple eco-system. The only bad part about them is they’re restricted to EU.

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      Have you seen the €0.50 “core tech fee” per app installation/year Apple wants to charge even if the app is installed from a 3rd party store? An app with 2 million users will be expected to pay 41000€ a month, and one with 10 million around 375000€ every single month, and this without counting the transaction fee.

      Of course, if you comply with Apple’s feudal claims then you can stay stuck in the App Store and pay a 30% sales tax (that unlike sales taxes from non-mafia institutions you aren’t allowed to pass to the customers, because obviously non-apple users also have to subsidize Apple users) like a good peasant, they “generously” wave the new fee.

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        11 months ago

        1M users is a huge number. How many as popular apps there will be, ever?

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        There is no 30% fee anymore. All the hate so far I find entirely unjustified, the changes are all really positive.

        You can argue it can be better, but saying it’s “retaliation” is a bit extreme.

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          If you don’t “volunteer” to pay the 30% fee you need to pay the 50 cents per I install core tech fee every month, so you have to pay a tax to Apple even if you don’t have your app in the app store. And you still need to pay a 10% fee on payments if the user installed the app from the App Store. A fee, that unlike sales taxes, you can’t pass to the users, so people buying on websites directly still need to subsidize Apple’s (and to be fair Google’s) neo-feudal fiefs.

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            11 months ago

            The EXISTING fees have changed, there is no 30% fee. It’s 17% now.

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                11 months ago

                Read it again:

                The new business terms for iOS apps in the EU have three elements: Reduced commission — iOS apps on the App Store will pay a reduced commission of either 10 percent (for the vast majority of developers, and subscriptions following their first year) or 17 percent on transactions for digital goods and services.

                Qouted verbatm from here: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/01/apple-announces-changes-to-ios-safari-and-the-app-store-in-the-european-union/

                There is NO 30% fee anymore, it is going to be 10% for most, 17% for some

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                  11 months ago

                  Also there is a fee waiver for certain devs, like NPOs and educational orgs. Overall there is a TON of great stuff coming to EU and absolutely no negatives.

                  Zero negatives, NOTHING is getting worse, and a lot is getting much much better.

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      Being restricted to only the iPhone, not e.g. the iPad those liberations are all pretty useless if you are invested in the ecosystem.

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        This is the first I hear about the changes being iPhone-only, where did you read they are not coming to iPad?

        edit: ah looks like some 4y ago Apple switched to a separate iPadOS. Used to be that iOS was both for phones and tablets.

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        11 months ago

        Not being on iPad is not useless. It will just hurt the iPad platform, not the other way around. Nobody really cares that much about it except some niche creative products anyway.