• assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Force the Dems to move back more to the left actually to win back those votes

    The opposite happens when Democrats lose. Republicans become emboldened and pull us right. Tea Party in 2010, Trump in 2016. The biggest right wing swings in modern US politics.

    If you don’t vote Democrat, you still endorse contentment with their policies. Not voting is a statement that you’re content with whoever wins – or, that you’re so privileged it doesn’t matter who wins.

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      11 months ago

      Obama was probably the largest swing right, blatantly bailing out the big banks and going HAM on imperialism.

      The DNC are the ones that tried to promote Trump because they thought it’d be an easy score for Hillary so you can thank the Democrats for that one too. And for screwing over Bernie of course.

      Not voting is a statement that you’re content with whoever wins

      I don’t think that’s how it works.

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        11 months ago

        If you’re telling me that you think Obama was a larger swing the right than Trump was, I think we’ve once again exhausted all constructive discussion between us.

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          11 months ago

          Obama was not more right wing than Trump. But he was the largest swing to the right.

          He didn’t close Guantanamo. Terrorized Afghanistan, Massively increased CIA surveillance to the point he even lost a lawsuit for breaking the law. Lied about not surveilling journalists. Drone striked like a genocidal maniac. Overthrew regimes such as in Libya creating huge chaos.

          Obama was a maniac on the global stage.

          What did Trump do? He drone striked like crazy too, but not in new countries. But he actually withdrew from Afghanistan. He killed Suleimani and ruined the Iran nuclear deal but (luckily) didn’t start a new war. Screwed over relations with China.

          All in all Trump was mostly known for his insanely stupid domestic policies. But in foreign policies he was not actually worse than Obama.